Australia ODI side named

[Iridium]

No Shaun Marsh. Bit of a shame. I know he's not injured because he played in the T20 against NSW.

 

[Covvy]

Damn, no Hodge or Ferguson (the two most talented batsmen in Australia currently). Interesting to see weather they play Hauritz or Doherty.

 

[aussie1st]

Dussey never should have been dropped in th 1st place as ive argued before. When he played ODs in 2009 he didn't have a settled position & AUS had alot of injuries.

His all-round ability with his off-spin, would make him very useful in the sub-continent once he plays to potential.

That's in the past, it should be about current form and hes well short of that averaging 23 in 7 matches. Hodge averages 80, also capable of bowling should have been in there over Dussey.

 

[formula1man]

No Shaun Marsh is a bit of a let down, I think Watson's best position is number 3. He is our best batsman.

Haddin
Marsh
Watson
Clarke
White
M. Hussey
Ferguson
Johnson
Hauritz
Lee
Harris

 

[angryangy]

I don't favour David Hussey for ODIs much at all. Of course he can hit the ball to all parts, but his bread and butter is width. A tight line can starve him and cause him to fidget, or he could be lured into a false shot against a pacy bowler. Good bowlers tend to get the better of offside players in one dayers.

 

[Iridium]

Damn, no Hodge or Ferguson (the two most talented batsmen in Australia currently). Interesting to see weather they play Hauritz or Doherty.

Just saw this part of the article:

There was no room for Callum Ferguson, although that might be because he is already considered a lock-in for the World Cup

That might explain his absence. But Hodge being left out in favour of Dussey? Not liking that. Hodge must be tearing his hair out thinking what the heck he has to do to get picked for Australia again.

 

[aussie1st]

I hope that is the case as Ferguson has done nothing wrong to miss out on the WC. Plus if Mike Hussey is injured during the tournament then Ferguson is the ideal replacement. I'm guessing Paine will be in the squad to cover as keeper, backup opener and 'captain'. Still would prefer Hodge who would give as a specialist top order player and most importantly form.

 

[cricketmad09]

Selectors have once again showed the inconsistency and flawed thought processes which have led them to be much maligned by the Australian public.

This is what my team would be

Watson
Haddin (wk)
White (c)
Hodge
Ferguson
Christian
M Hussey
Lee
Doherty
Bollinger
Tait

On the bench would be Johnson, Clarke, Smith

Note how i've included players who are currently inform and the ones who aren't i.e. clarke, johnson and smith have been sent back to state cricket to try and find some.

But I know this team will never ever happen because the selectors don't understand the concept of playing inform players and dropping out of form players.

 

[angryangy]

Like I said last month, it's not a shock that they overlook Hodge because of the way they've built the team. There's no specialist opener, so there's no role for Hodge to assume. It's broken logic, I know, but that's the roadblock. Instead of trying to make the best possible team out of what they have, they attempt to bring in the players which most suit their predetermined structure.

 

[cricketmad09]

Like I said last month, it's not a shock that they overlook Hodge because of the way they've built the team. There's no specialist opener, so there's no role for Hodge to assume. It's broken logic, I know, but that's the roadblock. Instead of trying to make the best possible team out of what they have, they attempt to bring in the players which most suit their predetermined structure.

I know it's not a shock. It's a disgrace but was predictable that once again despite all the evidence that he is currently one of the best batsmen in the country he doesn't get a go in the Australian team. Hodge doesn't open in one day cricket.

Thats flawed logic. You need to play the best 7 batsmen.

 

[ferg512]

I'm quite surprised Siddle was picked tbh. He doesn't have a great one day record, can someone tell me why Dirk Nannes doesn't get a look in?? He's not even in the twenty20 side?!

 

[War]

That's in the past, it should be about current form and hes well short of that averaging 23 in 7 matches. Hodge averages 80, also capable of bowling should have been in there over Dussey.

Well as we have just seen with Mr.Smith in the recent Ashes, domestic form isn't always the greatest indicator as how one may go in international cricket.

Dussey has all the skills required to be a good ODI player, so i dont see his current patchy ODI as sign that he is last his ability for eg. This time the selectors just need to find his correct position in the ODI set-up.

Mr.Hodge also certainly deserves to be in. But i dont think he should be rivaling with Dussey for a position. Clarke place should be under threat more in the ODI squad, but of course with him being anointed the next skipper, he is now a protected species.

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I don't favour David Hussey for ODIs much at all. Of course he can hit the ball to all parts, but his bread and butter is width. A tight line can starve him and cause him to fidget, or he could be lured into a false shot against a pacy bowler. Good bowlers tend to get the better of offside players in one dayers.

Although Dussey strength is indeed his off-side game. In all the T20s for AUS, in domestic cricket in ENG i have never seen any real quick bowler tie him down by starving him that room. Definitely seem him play strong leg-side shots.

 

[aussie1st]

Well as we have just seen with Mr.Smith in the recent Ashes, domestic form isn't always the greatest indicator as how one may go in international cricket.

If we are going by this season then Smith was picked out of form just like Hughes. So not the best example. Even if you ignore that form, Dussey has done nothing in the ODI arena to suggest he deserves going straight into the side. It's all potential and there are others that have that same potential and the form who should be ahead of him.

Also people need to realise this is not the Test format so form from that format doesn't always carry into the ODI arena. Hussey has been crap in the Test format for the past two seasons but he has been our best ODI batsmen. Clarke is coming off his best ODI performances in a while, averaged 110 against the English at a strike rate of 83 which he backed up with an average of 51 against SL at a strike rate of 91. If we are dropping him then we may as well drop the whole team and not pick anyone.

 

[War]

If we are going by this season then Smith was picked out of form just like Hughes. So not the best example. Even if you ignore that form, Dussey has done nothing in the ODI arena to suggest he deserves going straight into the side. It's all potential and there are others that have that same potential and the form who should be ahead of him.

Ye thats my point with Smith. He was picked on domestic form, but as many argued just by watching him playing he wasn't as good as his domestic stats suggested as a test standard spin-bowling all-rounder & should never have played in the Ashes.

Hussey however may not be having the greatest ryobi cup form this season. But difference with Smiths FC form, Hussey clealry has & always had all the potential to be a top ODI player.

With regards to his ODI form as i said before during 2009 the selectors messed him up by not giving him a settled position in ODIs vs SA, NZ, PAK. That was period when alot of the main players where out injured & Dussey was being roated between # 4-6 every game. So by recalling him now, they need to let him bat in one position & give him a set role.

Also people need to realise this is not the Test format so form from that format doesn't always carry into the ODI arena. Hussey has been crap in the Test format for the past two seasons but he has been our best ODI batsmen. Clarke is coming off his best ODI performances in a while, averaged 110 against the English at a strike rate of 83 which he backed up with an average of 51 against SL at a strike rate of 91. If we are dropping him then we may as well drop the whole team and not pick anyone.

Im not saying Clarke should be dropped. Im saying Clarke SR since the 2007 WC which many people where complaining about all year on this site i.e Robellina & sifter32 & angryangy was slightly distubring although he kept making runs.

Innings such as these i'm refering to:

- 2nd ODI: India v Australia at Visakhapatnam, Oct 20, 2010 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

- 2nd ODI: Australia v New Zealand at Melbourne, Feb 6, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

- 1st ODI: England v Australia at Southampton, Jun 22, 2010 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

- 4th ODI: England v Australia at The Oval, Jun 30, 2010 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

As you can see & im sure you remember. Pup getting critiqued for the fact that he didn't have the ability after he ended up batting in the death overs to hit the boundaries. All he could do was run alot of 2 & 3 with excellent running between the wickets. The power hitting was left for someone else, which is a slight achillies heel.

Guys like Hodge or Dussey coming @ # 4 wouldn''t have that problem. So what im basically saying if Clarke wasn't anointed as skipper & was just seen as another player. The chances of him being pushed aside in the ODI set-up would be possible, although it would be harsh.

Since the fact is Hodge or Dussey coming in @ # 4 behind Ponting in the ODI team has a more lethal look to it than Pup @ # 4.

 

[aussie1st]

Hussey however may not be having the greatest ryobi cup form this season. But difference with Smiths FC form, Hussey clealry has & always had all the potential to be a top ODI player.

His form wasn't much better last season either, he averaged 33 far from a guy saying pick me again. The guy has been dropped and all he has done since that time was average 33 and 23, I don't care if you have potential if you aren't performing then you shouldn't be picked again. What does that tell other players looking to be picked? Perform like crap and you will get a gig? Hodge and Christian who have been killing it for the past two seasons are suddenly over looked for a guy that isn't even averaging half of what they are.

Im not saying Clarke should be dropped. Im saying Clarke SR since the 2007 WC which many people where complaining about all year on this site i.e Robellina & sifter32 & angryangy was slightly distubring although he kept making runs.

You have the wrong members, they were the ones defending him. His SR has been a lot better this year, I believe it was 83 which is more than acceptable especially if the guy is averaging 45. If you take him out and put in Dussey who scores 30 and then gets out then you will see more of what happened in the Ashes.