Test playing teams to be knocked out early?

[SaiSrini]

Why don't you stop right now. No one gives a flying fuzz

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World Cup: World Cup format designed keeping top teams in mind - Ratnakar Shetty | Cricket News | ICC Cricket World Cup 2011 | ESPN Cricinfo

LOL This is such a joke thread

Like the honesty in Shetty's comments about the format being designed for the top teams. Also to find the best team, you have to give them enough time in the middle to show their class. Getting them napping in a single game that ruins their whole tournament and that does not give you a true winner is just not on. Its better giving the top teams the best chance. You are good, you get the reward.

 

[pcfan123]

Which is why this tournament is so predictable and boring.

 

[McLOVIN]

Best teams are already the best. Why do they need extra help? If they are so called best, they should prove it within the time that is given. India was no where near being the best last night around, (may be the were favorites - based on their fans opinion, and no one can beat that fan base) and as for that they did not go through. And it wasn't just one match, it was 2 matches. If they had won against SL, Ban wouldn't have gone through (better RR). So IDK what you people are talking about "one bad game."

If anything it's the smaller teams that should get extra attention. Why is ICC so backward? Sure having Ind and Pak out early was a huge money loss, but look at Irl now. They in the top 10 now, 4 years ago, I didn't even know that they played cricket. And soon will be getting a test call (hopefully), and there is your refund. Expand cricket, then you wont have to worry about money.

 

[AngryPixel]

Just wait for the 19th Feb, you'll get your answer. Bangldesh's strength is their spin bowling attack and Yusuf-Raina eat spinners for breakfast .

So here is a dilemma for bengal tigers, if they create spinning track they gotta play more spinners and there is a very good chance that they will be clobbered by Indian batters. And if they create a seaming track they wont be able to play piss poor Sreesanth even on his bad day Dont even dream about surviving Zaheer on a seaming track.

 

[sami ullah khan]

^Are not you being a tad over optimistic about your seamers

 

[McLOVIN]

^ lol

@ A_P: What that has to do with what I had posted? This isn't about certain teams, we are talking about the format.

 

[icyman]

Best teams are already the best. Why do they need extra help? If they are so called best, they should prove it within the time that is given. India was no where near being the best last night around, (may be the were favorites - based on their fans opinion, and no one can beat that fan base) and as for that they did not go through. And it wasn't just one match, it was 2 matches. If they had won against SL, Ban wouldn't have gone through (better RR). So IDK what you people are talking about "one bad game."

According to many BD fans, BD is one of the best, let them prove it then.

If you are the best, showcase your talents in every possible format.

As for 2007, the first bad game led to a loss in the team morale, which subsequently was diminished by the time we played SRL.

 

[AngryPixel]

^Are not you being a tad over optimistic about your seamers

Naah, Its a fact A piss poor Sreesanth is enough for BD

 

[McLOVIN]

According to many BD fans, BD is one of the best, let them prove it then.

If you are the best, showcase your talents in every possible format.

As for 2007, the first bad game led to a loss in the team morale, which subsequently was diminished by the time we played SRL.

They are ranked #9, (or 8). No Bangladeshi fans actually thinks that. Do not exaggerate. Very lame try there..

And excuses and excuses. Real good teams bounce back the next day. If they can't even win 2 out 3 matches then how can you expect them to win the whole thing? They weren't good enough. Even you know it. Current India is no where near the same India of 07, even though they may have looked good.

They deserved to go through over Ban, sure. But they didn't perform better than Ban at that time, therefore they didn't go through.

And if this 2 group, long group stage is just about giving the bigger teams a bit more time, then why not add more teams to the groups, instead of 4 teams of 4 groups like last WC, have 5s of 4. Oh wait, that's right, lets keep cricket into just 6 teams thing.

Totally different issue but, cricket probably is the only sports that changes and chops the format of the game or structure of the competition so manyyyy times. Soccer will never be shortened to 60 min game, or reduce the team numbers, nor NFL will extend football games to 6 qrt a game. etc

 

[ebikhan]

I don't expect a major upset till quarter final simple because teams would have to have play 6 matches and would have a chance to bounce back. This is exactly what didn't happen in 2007 specifically.

and yes, if a team consistently lose their matches and then they deserve to be out of the quarter-final. I still like the 92 Format and it was the best IMO.

In this format the real world cup starts in quarter-final. Though the lengthy group stages would ensure that good teams will make the next round.

 

[icyman]

They are ranked #9, (or 8). No Bangladeshi fans actually thinks that. Do not exaggerate. Very lame try there..

And if this 2 group, long group stage is just about giving the bigger teams a bit more time, then why not add more teams to the groups, instead of 4 teams of 4 groups like last WC, have 5s of 4. Oh wait, that's right, lets keep cricket into just 6 teams thing.

Well then try and be realistic. Your team ain't gonna make the next round. There is way too much talk of them reaching the QFs.

Secondly, even if you do reach the knock outs you don't generate enough enthusiasm amongst the cricketing fraternity. The mere fact that you reached the S-8 last time stands testimony to that.

Having 4 groups of 4 teams has backfired in the past and I am very much sure that the ICC does not want a situation wherein you have India, Australia, Pakistan, Srl all falling out of the WC at the expense of minnows.

 

[SaiSrini]

Best teams are already the best. Why do they need extra help? If they are so called best, they should prove it within the time that is given. India was no where near being the best last night around, (may be the were favorites - based on their fans opinion, and no one can beat that fan base) and as for that they did not go through. And it wasn't just one match, it was 2 matches. If they had won against SL, Ban wouldn't have gone through (better RR). So IDK what you people are talking about "one bad game."

No way. Even if India beat Sri Lanka, India needed a miracle (for the result of the other Bangladesh game) to go in their favor to reach the Super 8's (and that game didnt go in their favor, I guess). So it was basically "lose one game and depend on the other teams to sail you through". Thats a poor format, no matter whose fan you are.

In fact a World Cup should only be for the best teams. I dont believe small teams should be a part of it. A World Cup is held within a small period of time (a month or maybe more). It gives lot of chance for small teams to have things going their way during that period and run away with glory. But it doesnt show you the best team. Luck plays a huge part there. BANGLADESH WERE LUCKY TO BEAT INDIA IN THAT 2007 WC when they shouldnt have even gone past that group stage. Same with Pakistan. I dont mind some boring group games. I want the best teams in the crucial stages of the tournament.

 

[icyman]

In fact a World Cup should only be for the best teams. I dont believe small teams should be a part of it.

Thats why many vote for 1992 to be the best till date. We might see the ICC reverting to the same format in 2015 too.Maybe the Top8 Test teams and the final two spots being given to the others to battle it out.

 

[McLOVIN]

@ #27: You don't lucky for 600 balls, all 11 opposition wickets, and getting to 200 runs, and 3 guys scoring 50s. And they proved that it wasn't just "luck" by beating SA in the next round, and coming very close with Eng. Better team on that day won. Simple as that. Fact that you guys are still dragging that along after 4 years is pretty lame. Move on.

Well then try and be realistic. Your team ain't gonna make the next round. There is way too much talk of them reaching the QFs.

Secondly, even if you do reach the knock outs you don't generate enough enthusiasm amongst the cricketing fraternity. The mere fact that you reached the S-8 last time stands testimony to that.

Having 4 groups of 4 teams has backfired in the past and I am very much sure that the ICC does not want a situation wherein you have India, Australia, Pakistan, Srl all falling out of the WC at the expense of minnows.

And when exactly was I being unrealistic? Can you quote one post of mine on Bangladesh where I was being unrealistic?

If you have any personal problems with some other Bangladeshi fans (which you seriously do and should get that checked out) for being proud of his/her team and dreaming big and being "unrealistic", then why don't you go talk them personally? Why the F**K are you nagging me about it? Stop being a so arrogant, come back when you know how to have a proper discussion.

And FYI, there is such thing as "UNREALISTIC" in sports. That's why its called sports. Any team can win on, any given day, against any team, in any sports, you can mud the rankings. That's why you play damn sports. And that is exactly what you guys are afraid off. And that is why you guys want longer time for your "best" teams. You can't just switch and shuffle the format around, that is not fair to the associate teams. Talk about having a good sportsmanship. ICC itself don't have one.

And as a matter of fact, Australia did not get kicked out, because they were truly the best team. Then went on a shut-out. It's the chockers that chocked and get kicked out early. And because of that we are having to deal with this format, which every one hates, except the chockers, of course. If your team was truly the best, and I don't mean just India, I mean every top 5/6 teams, then you shouldn't care about the format. Just play the damn game.


Again, this thread nor my posts were about Bangladesh. Stop bring them up. Just because I am Bangladeshi, doesn't mean all of a sudden it's part of the discussion. These are all off topic posts.I am talking about World Cup format. When you guys can stop being arrogant and have a proper conversation like sane group of people, then come back and talk on the correct TOPIC.

 

[Cricketman]

I think WI are in with a shot. I don't think they'll be knocked out by Bang... They have such quality in their team. I am very happy that Sarwan is back personally.