2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup - Australia

[Bigby Wolf]

I like the format of U19 WC.

4 groups 16 teams.

Then Knockouts.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

I like the format of U19 WC.

4 groups 16 teams.

Then Knockouts.

Champions Trophy had a decent format. Two groups then knockouts. Nice and straightforward.

I think you could got to 4 groups of 5 in a men's T20 World Cup then knockouts. I think they're doing that but having a super six or eight or some nonsense. Decent knockout cricket is one thing that cricket misses.

 

[Bevab]

Champions Trophy had a decent format. Two groups then knockouts. Nice and straightforward.

I think you could got to 4 groups of 5 in a men's T20 World Cup then knockouts. I think they're doing that but having a super six or eight or some nonsense. Decent knockout cricket is one thing that cricket misses.

It feels like a while since we’ve had a proper ‘cup’ tournament thanks to the commercialisation of T20 leagues and the ICC’s absolute fear of missing out on subcontinental money and support.

 

[Bevab]

7-7 on each side, and then the knock outs (Including quarters). But 6-6, and only 2 can qualify is quite boring.

I disagree on it being boring. There are higher stakes when there is lesser spots for qualification. I do agree on more teams being a necessity. Associates are struggling in T20Is against quality opposition and this is due to the lack of experience.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

It feels like a while since we’ve had a proper ‘cup’ tournament thanks to the commercialisation of T20 leagues and the ICC’s absolute fear of missing out on subcontinental money and support.

The last ODI World Cup is the perfect example. Rolling expansion back 25 years of expansion just to get a huge number of India matches and the cash that goes with it.

I still think the only reason they've decided to expand now is because the USA has a competitive side (all those players who will be, presumably, eligible in a couple of years) and a lot of private investment is going there so they see that as a big market to break into.

Other than tiny gulf states with lots of cash, and maybe Nepal, there's not really any other places I think that are likely to breakthrough which the ICC care about. European cricket, in ten years time, might be a lot stronger but that depends on funding but it doesn't mean there will be huge interest.

 

[Bevab]

The last ODI World Cup is the perfect example. Rolling expansion back 25 years of expansion just to get a huge number of India matches and the cash that goes with it.

I still think the only reason they've decided to expand now is because the USA has a competitive side (all those players who will be, presumably, eligible in a couple of years) and a lot of private investment is going there so they see that as a big market to break into.

Other than tiny gulf states with lots of cash, and maybe Nepal, there's not really any other places I think that are likely to breakthrough which the ICC care about. European cricket, in ten years time, might be a lot stronger but that depends on funding but it doesn't mean there will be huge interest.

They’ve also lost their bets on the two sides who last became full members as one is in political turmoil and is a long-term risk whilst the other one seems extremely disinterested in test cricket at the moment. That is only going to make matters worse for any prospective nation applying for full membership if the current guidelines and unspoken norms persist. USA is probably the only side that will get around it if they can get a cricket culture going.

I think European cricket has been on the verge of a breakthrough for a while now. All it needs is the type of attention and nurturing that the Middle East and the US are getting right now and it will flourish. Feel like UAE will also produce a stronger side going forward. Nepal’s passion and proximity to cricketing hotbeds will ensure their presence. Wonder where the likes of PNG, Japan and Thailand will be in the near future. I remember Brazil also showing interest in cricket. ICC should tap into that market if they want a powerhouse in the distant future as I can see a very India like rise from them if backed. If an Olympics ticket is guaranteed, nations like China will also get into the mix.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

They’ve also lost their bets on the two sides who last became full members as one is in political turmoil and is a long-term risk whilst the other one seems extremely disinterested in test cricket at the moment. That is only going to make matters worse for any prospective nation applying for full membership if the current guidelines and unspoken norms persist. USA is probably the only side that will get around it if they can get a cricket culture going.

I think European cricket has been on the verge of a breakthrough for a while now. All it needs is the type of attention and nurturing that the Middle East and the US are getting right now and it will flourish. Feel like UAE will also produce a stronger side going forward. Nepal’s passion and proximity to cricketing hotbeds will ensure their presence. Wonder where the likes of PNG, Japan and Thailand will be in the near future. I remember Brazil also showing interest in cricket. ICC should tap into that market if they want a powerhouse in the distant future as I can see a very India like rise from them if backed. If an Olympics ticket is guaranteed, nations like China will also get into the mix.

Olympics would be big in terms of opening up other funding streams for countries. A lot would get government funding which could lead to better infrastructure and support for players.

Ireland would love to play test cricket but they just can't afford it. The ICC should, if they really care about test cricket, provide a test fund to allow all countries to host a minimum number of test matches a year. It might only mean each country gets at least one home test and those that can and want to/can can play more. It's another reason getting rid of ODI cricket would be bad - Ireland would be left with T20s.

 

[sarthakisthename]

I disagree on it being boring. There are higher stakes when there is lesser spots for qualification. I do agree on more teams being a necessity. Associates are struggling in T20Is against quality opposition and this is due to the lack of experience.

Just look at the group stages of 2016, 14 and 21 it was boring. More gates are open for the team to go in the knock outs will make every match more interesting, player will perform their fullest till the end of the group stages.

 

[Bevab]

Just look at the group stages of 2016, 14 and 21 it was boring. More gates are open for the team to go in the knock outs will make every match more interesting, player will perform their fullest till the end of the group stages.

Wasn’t 2016 when Afghanistan shocked West Indies with a win? My memory from the event is otherwise hazy.

2021’s group stage was not boring at all, South Africa were in the hunt till the end for qualification in one group. India’s fate was sealed due to a scheduling quirk but otherwise it would have been fine. As I’ve previously stated I’m fine with more teams being added leading to more games and an extra knockout stage rather than more of the same crap between the same sides when we all know what the result would be 9 out of 10 times.

 

[sarthakisthename]

Wasn’t 2016 when Afghanistan shocked West Indies with a win? My memory from the event is otherwise hazy.

2021’s group stage was not boring at all, South Africa were in the hunt till the end for qualification in one group. India’s fate was sealed due to a scheduling quirk but otherwise it would have been fine. As I’ve previously stated I’m fine with more teams being added leading to more games and an extra knockout stage rather than more of the same crap between the same sides when we all know what the result would be 9 out of 10 times.

Look afghanistan beating West Indies has no meaning in 2016, as wi was already qualified and afg was out. It was a dead rubber match, more gates for knock out will make small teams to put more efforts in group stages to get into the knock outs. 6 teams in a pool, and only 2 can qualify is a joke. We can do it as it's done in odi wc - "2011 and 15". 7-7 either side and 4 can qualify 1 group, adding the quarters can be more interesting, rather than this crap.

 

[sarthakisthename]

Wasn’t 2016 when Afghanistan shocked West Indies with a win? My memory from the event is otherwise hazy.

2021’s group stage was not boring at all, South Africa were in the hunt till the end for qualification in one group. India’s fate was sealed due to a scheduling quirk but otherwise it would have been fine. As I’ve previously stated I’m fine with more teams being added leading to more games and an extra knockout stage rather than more of the same crap between the same sides when we all know what the result would be 9 out of 10 times.

Talking about Sa in 2021 was so unfair, that you played 5 games in which you won 4 and lost 1, still you can't able to qualify. As we see in 2015 wc, small team like Bangladesh get qualified for the knock outs, which can never be happened in this type of scheduling. Just 2 more teams needed to be add to make it 7-7, and then including the quarters.

 

[SMMODS]

Australia have announced their squad for the T20 world cup. Big News - Tim David has been selected in the 15 member squad.

 

[Bevab]

Australia have announced their squad for the T20 world cup. Big News - Tim David has been selected in the 15 member squad.

Absolutely deserved selection.

 

[Verified Enigma]

Huge loss for Singapore. Major plus for Australia.

It is so difficult to find a genuine finisher in T20 who can hit the ball clean since the go.

 

[Bevab]

Huge loss for Singapore. Major plus for Australia.

It is so difficult to find a genuine finisher in T20 who can hit the ball clean since the go.

Hasn’t played a T20I in over two years for them… basically ever since he blew up on the global T20 scene. Think Singapore wrote him off as an option even back then and given that they didn’t attempt to recall him in recent times he must have expressed his desire to represent Australia long ago too.

The Aussie lineup now looks very interesting to say the least. Does Smith even fit into the team’s best XI?

Finch (he isn’t getting dropped despite being torrid)
Warner
MMarsh
Maxi
David
Inglis
Agar
Cummins
Starc
Hazlewood
Zampa

This would be my XI although I can see the management going with Wade and Stoinis in the middle order and somehow finding a way to shove Smith in there because he is the sort of big name that you don’t really drop.