2023 ICC Cricket World Cup (October/November) - India

[A.P Haux]

@CerealKiller

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There's always a pattern, Always

 

[Umair7]

And to be fair this was a distasteful moment from Mitchell Marsh as well. Right up there with the Ricky Ponting/Sharad Pawar moment

Nothing wrong with this picture!

 

[icyman]

@CerealKiller

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Guy next to Cummins looks like Sarfaraz. They ought to make Ranatunga look like Ranatunga!

 

[icyman]

And to be fair this was a distasteful moment from Mitchell Marsh as well. Right up there with the Ricky Ponting/Sharad Pawar moment

Lol, they've won it! They could dismantle and sell it off /melt it and make more medals OR convert them into robots and have a fight.

No one cares what they choose to do with it!

 

[SaiSrini]

And to be fair this was a distasteful moment from Mitchell Marsh as well. Right up there with the Ricky Ponting/Sharad Pawar moment

Its just our cultural differences, Hari! For us Indians (and maybe subcontinental too, though not 100% sure?), "placing feet on something valuable" is seen as disrespectful and insulting. Apparently not the same for other cultures.

I reacted just like you when seeing that picture But then I read other comments on social media and understood!

 

[harishankar]

As usual I am again seeing all those self congratulory commiserations for India’s performance. Seems that after initial public emotional disappointment we go back to being satisfied with the team by dismissing the final loss as “just a bad day” and back to celebrating individual records. I hope the team itself introspects on why they keep losing in big knockouts and finals.

There needs to be a sporting culture in the public for sports to flourish. Seems that even former cricketers get back to this mould. We need a sports culture that fosters excellence and results. Maybe time for foreign coaches to comeback and instill a mindset change.

 

[Verified Enigma]

As usual I am again seeing all those self congratulory commiserations for India’s performance. Seems that after initial public emotional disappointment we go back to being satisfied with the team by dismissing the final loss as “just a bad day” and back to celebrating individual records. I hope the team itself introspects on why they keep losing in big knockouts and finals.

There needs to be a sporting culture in the public for sports to flourish. Seems that even former cricketers get back to this mould. We need a sports culture that fosters excellence and results. Maybe time for foreign coaches to comeback and instill a mindset change.

Don't think there was any issue in the mindset of the team, this particular instance was indeed a classic case of opposition being better on the field for that particular day.

For 2019 WC as well India ended up as number 1 in the group stage but at that point there were a few flaws in the team, biggest of all being the number 4 conundrum.

That isn't the case this time around.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

Wow.

 

[harishankar]

Don't think there was any issue in the mindset of the team, this particular instance was indeed a classic case of opposition being better on the field for that particular day.

For 2019 WC as well India ended up as number 1 in the group stage but at that point there were a few flaws in the team, biggest of all being the number 4 conundrum.

That isn't the case this time around.

I don’t agree. For example the big boundary drought between overs 10 and 40 exposed a huge mindset weakness despite Rohit Sharma’s assertive captaincy.

Fear of failure was writ large on KL’s face through his innings. And Virat was also affected by KL’s role. Also after getting Australia 47/3 there was not enough attacking fields or mindset. If you didn’t have enough runs they needed to attack more. Shoulders of players dropped too easily after a couple of Aussie boundaries.

I think such moments in the big games have to be analyzed dispassionately by future teams to figure out how to overcome them. We will not magically win championships by “being the better team on the day.”

 

[Bevab]

Don't think there was any issue in the mindset of the team, this particular instance was indeed a classic case of opposition being better on the field for that particular day.

For 2019 WC as well India ended up as number 1 in the group stage but at that point there were a few flaws in the team, biggest of all being the number 4 conundrum.

That isn't the case this time around.

It’s remarkable how people here think that India simply didn’t turn up and hence lost the game to Australia rather than the latter providing us a masterclass in ODI cricket and completely outplaying us in every department. Must be incredibly obnoxious to Aussie fans.

 

[harishankar]

It’s remarkable how people here think that India simply didn’t turn up and hence lost the game to Australia rather than the latter providing us a masterclass in ODI cricket and completely outplaying us in every department. Must be incredibly obnoxious to Aussie fans.

No doubt Australia played brilliant cricket and hearty congrats to them but that shouldn’t deflect from analyzing our own failures. Calling every final or semifinal defeat as just a bad day and opposition played better cricket won’t help in the future.

I bet Australia doesn’t win big just by turning up. They analyze themselves and their opponents and execute plans brillianty.

 

[harishankar]

If this was India’s first or second or even third final or semifinal loss in all these years I can understand the point. But repeatedly losing at the big stage deserves to be analyzed dispassionately and logically without emotional bias.

 

[harishankar]

It’s remarkable how people here think that India simply didn’t turn up and hence lost the game to Australia rather than the latter providing us a masterclass in ODI cricket and completely outplaying us in every department. Must be incredibly obnoxious to Aussie fans.

Analyzing one‘s own failure should not be obnoxious to opposition fans. I am not making excuses for India’s loss but rather calling for introspection and analysis for future preparation. Big difference.

 

[harishankar]

It’s remarkable how people here think that India simply didn’t turn up and hence lost the game to Australia rather than the latter providing us a masterclass in ODI cricket and completely outplaying us in every department. Must be incredibly obnoxious to Aussie fans.

You say they outplayed us in every department and I agree. What is am asking is for analysis on why they outplayed us. It’s not like this Indian team was vastly inferior or in poor form to be outplayed the way they were. This is the team that beat Australia in the group stage after all.

 

[Bevab]

You say they outplayed us in every department and I agree. What is am asking is for analysis on why they outplayed us. It’s not like this Indian team was vastly inferior or in poor form to be outplayed the way they were.

I shall try seeing it from my perspective and post in the Indian thread about it soon^TM.