Can we get some new umpires?

[smssia0112]

If I recall, there was an umpire who was sitting 1st on the correct decisions table out of all the elite umpires when he was sacked after a certain incident. In fact, I believe he was crucified for being a terrible umpire, told he was past it, and sent on his way after this particular incident.

But as Kev said, umpiring is very difficult, and mistakes are naturally going to occur. Many people oppose technology taking over, saying that the humanity part is important, yet still complain when umpires get it wrong. Many of them are on this board in fact...

 

[Ollie_H]

On the talk of good umpires isnt Simon Taufel supposed to be the best at the moment?

 

[harishankar]

I cannot believe that a single Indian umpire isn't considered worth a spot in the elite panel. It's ridiculous. After all these years, India need an umpire on the world stage...

Obviously the politics of the BCCI and the ICC is playing a big role here...

 

[punterpupnroy]

On the talk of good umpires isnt Simon Taufel supposed to be the best at the moment?

yeah thats what i heard on the news. i wish he was umpiring this series than hopefully we wudnt be havin this discussion in the first place.

 

[harishankar]

yeah thats what i heard on the news. i wish he was umpiring this series than hopefully we wudnt be havin this discussion in the first place.

In that case there should be one home umpire and one away umpire. NO neutral umpires at all.

In any case I trust that quite a few Indian umpires are better than Mark Benson.

 

[Leicester Fox]

Why would we bring back the ridiculous stuff that was home umpires? Do we really want to make Pakistan unbeatable at home? I would bring in technology but it isn't fast enough yet so unless you want to bring down over rates considerably it won't work.

 

[punterpupnroy]

Not only ground umpires where poor but LOL the 3rd Ump as well. I obviousley think that ump is a god for not dissmissing roy but i agree with Mark Nicholas's comment there was indeed a tad of daylight between the shadow and his foot.

 

[khan31]

Even the third umpire got it wrong with all those replays and camera angles. Something has to be done!

 

[Kev]

Not only ground umpires where poor but LOL the 3rd Ump as well. I obviousley think that ump is a god for not dissmissing roy but i agree with Mark Nicholas's comment there was indeed a tad of daylight between the shadow and his foot.

Thus proving that technology doesn't mean that its 100% correct either. Because someone has to program and interpret it correctly.

 

[Gilly Fan]

If I recall, there was an umpire who was sitting 1st on the correct decisions table out of all the elite umpires when he was sacked after a certain incident. In fact, I believe he was crucified for being a terrible umpire, told he was past it, and sent on his way after this particular incident.

But as Kev said, umpiring is very difficult, and mistakes are naturally going to occur. Many people oppose technology taking over, saying that the humanity part is important, yet still complain when umpires get it wrong. Many of them are on this board in fact...

Infact you're right, so let's never speak of it again.

 

[sammy]

how about some honest ones ? instead of new ones ?

 

[RoboRocks]

how about some honest ones ? instead of new ones ?

They are not dishonest. They have made some bad errors since Steve Bucknor is a very experienced umpire with 100 tests to his name but Mark Benson has made quite a few mistakes since I first saw him umpire.

This has been talked about before and I stand by what I said then about umpires get most of there decisions right to a good 90% and apart from a few umpires I know, most of them are excellent and do a great job. Umpiring is a very difficult job and these guys do well to get 90% of decisions right.

Bad decisions happen in cricket and you have to hope a bad decision from them goes your way since these things tend to even out over time.

 

[sohum]

Oh get over it.

You try standing in the middle of a cricket pitch with a large crowd of people chanting, cheering and generally making a fair bit of noise. Then you try and listen for a feint sound and then try and be certain that its the sound of ball on bat, not a number of other noises. Try and do all this not knowing which delivery its going to happen and without replays, a bunch of commentators telling you its out, hot spots and snick-o-meters.

Remember the umpire should be certain to give someone out, if he has any doubt at all he can't give it. Umpires wont be 100% accurate and they don't need to be, it's been the same story for 100's of years. You won't find 1 person in the entire world who will get it right 100% of the time.


Actually what you should be moaning at is that batsmen don't walk anymore. That is something relatively new to cricket and it just seems to be acceptable these days whereas it shouldn't be.

Did you watch the game Kev? If you didn't, I don't think you have any business applying a generalized statement here. And if you did, surely you will agree that while the umpires were not 100% accurate, they hardly got a contentious issue right, today. They were closer to 0% for decisions that can be termed as pretty regulation. No one is asking for 100%, if you read the thread. All people want is some sort of accountability and a level of umpiring that isn't as pathetically poor as it has been so far in the Aus-Ind series.

This has been talked about before and I stand by what I said then about umpires get most of there decisions right to a good 90% and apart from a few umpires I know, most of them are excellent and do a great job. Umpiring is a very difficult job and these guys do well to get 90% of decisions right.

Where are you getting these statistics from? I have made it my personal project during this test match to record every contentious appeal that was made, with a recording of if the umpires got it right or wrong. After the first day's play the umps are hovering at around 33% correct.

 

[Cricketman]

Even at his best, he was nowhere near as good as Venky was. Now that man is a legend but just because he's an Indian umpire, he's not got the recognition he deserved.

He quit because the job was too stressful.

 

[RoboRocks]

Did you watch the game Kev? If you didn't, I don't think you have any business applying a generalized statement here. And if you did, surely you will agree that while the umpires were not 100% accurate, they hardly got a contentious issue right, today. They were closer to 0% for decisions that can be termed as pretty regulation. No one is asking for 100%, if you read the thread. All people want is some sort of accountability and a level of umpiring that isn't as pathetically poor as it has been so far in the Aus-Ind series.

What Kev has said is right Sohum. We'll all agree that they have had a bad game. Bucknor is a good umpire and has played over 100 tests. If they didn't see/hear anything or if anything is not clear they have to give it not out.

I can understand you feel upset about it due to the result of it but its one of the things that happens in cricket. You have to hope that one goes your way.

The walker thing is also a good point as well, you could argue that you should blame the batsmen for got going after he knows he's out. All the Australian batsmen don't seem to walk. (apart from Gilchrist I think)

Where are you getting these statistics from? I have made it my personal project during this test match to record every contentious appeal that was made, with a recording of if the umpires got it right or wrong. After the first day's play the umps are hovering at around 33% correct.

These were the statistics recorded from the ICC when they monitor umpire decisions.