Chucking tests don't work

[Jarryd]

Wait,did you throw it like you would if you were actually bowling,or did you cock your arm back as far as you could go?:

I did a couple just blatantly throwing it, and it spun an absolutle mile. Did a few bowling normally only moving my arm in a throwing motion a bit, probably over the 15 degree limit. Got far more spin that way than with my normal action.

 

[Andrew G]

Screw all of you. You are just jealous because Murali is a great bowler and Johan Botha is the best spinner we got in South Africa at the moment!

Yep, you've found me out, I'm jealous of Botha because he's so good...:
Even I can spin the ball far more then he can, so can a few of the 9-12 year
olds that I coach.

As for Botha's action, honestly I don't see much of a problem,
but I haven't been really looking to notice if there is or not.
And regarding the original topic of this thread, I have to agree,
the testing procedures are just not good enough, in-game testing
is what's needed to find out the real truth, not labratory testing.

 

[Wildwil]

When ever a good spinner plays against Australia.He has to be reported like Botha and Murali because the aussies can't handle it. Whenever Murali plays against any other nation he doesn't get reported but against Australia he does.The aussies are just scared

 

[angryangy]

Kumble, Harbhajan, Vettori, Kaneria

Much better spinners than Botha, weren't reported.

 

[Andrew G]

When ever a good spinner plays against Australia.He has to be reported like Botha and Murali because the aussies can't handle it.

First off man, Botha really isn't that good to worry about.
We have better spinners in our National series that have more talent,
Andre Nel is somebody Australia may worry about in time,
so don't have a sook about Botha. :

Whenever Murali plays against any other nation he doesn't get reported but against Australia he does.The aussies are just scared.

Yeah, I'm sure Australia is scared...:laugh

 

[langerrox]

When ever a good spinner plays against Australia.He has to be reported like Botha and Murali because the aussies can't handle it. Whenever Murali plays against any other nation he doesn't get reported but against Australia he does.The aussies are just scared

and maybe the fact that they have (the only? dont sure) facilitys to test it in? :

 

[Sman-21]

The only spinner australia are "scared" of is Vettori.
He always troubles the aussies lets get him tested straight away, we cant allow a spinner to be giving us trouble :

Definantly agree about the crowd yelling out no ball is not on theres no need for that.

 

[Jarryd]

No spinner, other than Vettori, ever gives us trouble We didn't see Giles, Kaneria, Kumble or Singh reported after playing us. Stupid theory.

 

[barmyarmy]

I agree that there's no conspiracy going on but it's certainly unfortunate that players seem to get called for throwing in Australia more than anywhere else.
Maybe we should make all spinners wear a nice heavy arm brace when they play that doesn't let them throw it. That way no-one will be able to throw and no spinner will be phsically able to bowl more than 3 overs in a spell. Perfect for England

 

[Sureshot]

Throwing definetly helps you get more spin. I've bowled before throwing it, and it spun a ridiculous amount.

To me it appears Botha chucks it, but since he's young hopefully he'll be able to correct his action. But it's mystifying that even throw it appears he throws it, he doesn't get any spin.

That is BS, spinner get's all spin on the ball from either wrist or finger. So how would a wider delivery angle make it spin more?

 

[andrew_nixon]

That is BS, spinner get's all spin on the ball from either wrist or finger. So how would a wider delivery angle make it spin more?

Because if you do throw it, you can flex your wrist much more.

 

[Andrew G]

I agree that there's no conspiracy going on but it's certainly unfortunate that players seem to get called for throwing in Australia more than anywhere else.

It's probably because there's more attention on the Australian matches,
plus in Oz we always have the best available umpires contracted to
ejudicate the international matches, so there's more chance of being
reported.


Andrew...

 

[usy]

Guys tell you what a secret ,LOL Any team goes to Australia to play Some cricket there bowlers will be reported next day , no wonder Shoaib had some injury problem in the tour last year (ran away). And shabbier was reported (first time) after the Australian Tour. Why did ICC not ban Shabbier on his Debut Match, we all should agree this is not fare . So many other bowlers that bowl illegally (chuck). Why they are not banned from ICC? :

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Give Botha a break, he is a medium pacer who just took up spin. He will have a few hiccups in the way, as it isn't a natural action and bowling a lot of overs can have a strain.

 

[Stephen Bailey]

So many other bowlers that bowl illegally (chuck). Why they are not banned from ICC? :

Who else do you think chucks then?