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One more thing I forgot to add. Kohli did not bowl Umesh for most of the England 2nd innings even when Curran got set. In fact, it was only after Umesh came in to bowl that Curran looked uncomfortable. He could'nt put bat to ball for 2 overs. If not for Umesh's spell, the target could've been much bigger as well. Yet, I expect him to be dropped for Bumrah by the bright minds in the team management.

Also, we should bowl first even if the conditions are helpful for bowling. Most of our overseas wins have been in helpful conditions with us batting first. Jo'burg 2006, Durban 2010, Perth 2008, Headingley 2002, Lords 2014, Jamaica 2006 and more recently Jo'burg 2018 have all had a common theme. Extremely challenging batting conditions where our batsmen fought hard and then our bowling outbowled their much vaunted opposition. Sometimes I doubt how much cricket Kohli and Shastri have seen. Or is it a case of them going against conventional logic because they want to show people that they don't give a damn.

Did you mean to say 'we should bat first even if conditions are helpful for bowling'? :D

I think we should bat first. When we bat first in tough conditions and put up a decent score, it lifts the team. Hope we can get to bat first at Lord's.
 

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One more thing I forgot to add. Kohli did not bowl Umesh for most of the England 2nd innings even when Curran got set. In fact, it was only after Umesh came in to bowl that Curran looked uncomfortable. He could'nt put bat to ball for 2 overs. If not for Umesh's spell, the target could've been much bigger as well. Yet, I expect him to be dropped for Bumrah by the bright minds in the team management.

Also, we should bat first even if the conditions are helpful for bowling. Most of our overseas wins have been in helpful conditions with us batting first. Jo'burg 2006, Durban 2010, Perth 2008, Headingley 2002, Lords 2014, Jamaica 2006 and more recently Jo'burg 2018 have all had a common theme. Extremely challenging batting conditions where our batsmen fought hard and then our bowling outbowled their much vaunted opposition. Sometimes I doubt how much cricket Kohli and Shastri have seen. Or is it a case of them going against conventional logic because they want to show people that they don't give a damn.

Well, Shastri was sleeping. So that answers your question. 99% times he has shades on, I think we all know what he does. Frankly, this team has no coach or manager at the moment. It's a one man wrecking machine. My father and I used to have fierce arguments on how much power the captain or our cricket team should have and I always leaned on as much as possible but I see his point now. If the wrong bloke gets the job, the results can be shambles. He has followed cricket for over 50 years and his assessment is that Kohli is a far better 'cricketer' than Gavaskar or Tendulkar. He's not a better batsman in his opinion, but he believes he will win more games for us than those two legends because of his will power and temperament. On the captaincy front, he believes Ganguly was the best he saw for India and Imran Khan all time while I believe Dhoni is the best of all time. I'm only putting this here because I sort of get his wisdom from his experience on the power front.

I am dreaming that if we happen to lose the 19 WC Kohli will get the sack but my dad believes he will be around in the job till at least 2023 WC in India.
 

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True that. Give Pujara and Rahane the freedom to express themselves and not play for their place in the next game. And same with the openers. India have to make it a rule that only two of the specialist openers can play at a time. And Vijay needs to be let known that he is the first choice opener with Dhawan fighting only for Rahul's spot. And Rahul needs to be the first choice between him and Dhawan. If you see this from a 'conspiracy theory perspective', it looks like Kohli has ensured that only his own spot is secure and no one else's spot is (P.s: I am not saying Kohli is intentionally implementing this theory).

I would also bring back Jadeja for Pandya. Ashwin showed last game that England are suspectible to spin even in conditions favoring seamers. I would bring in Jadeja instead of Kuldeep as Jadeja can bat as well as Pandya and gives the side a specialist 5th bowling option. I will also continue with Umesh Yadav even if Bumrah is fit, because Yadav despite his 'run leaks' in the first test also got wickets at crucial moments. And Yadav needs to be given the same backing that I am proposing that our batsmen get. My XI for Lord's would be this:

Vijay
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Karthik
Ashwin
Jadeja
Ishant
Shami
Yadav

And for slip catching, if we use the right people, we can most likely improve it. We should use Rahane almost everytime a slip is needed (if only one slip is needed, it should be Rahane; if more than one slip is needed, one of them should be Rahane). And the likes of Kohli, Dhawan and Rahul should stay away from slips. I think test specialists like Vijay and Ashwin should man the slips. Successful slip catching has mostly been about personality in Indian cricket. If you noticed, Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar were safer slip catchers than Ganguly or Sehwag. And the personality of these players show through. Kohli, Rahul, Jadeja are more closer in personality to Ganguly, Sehwag. India should earmark Rahane, Vijay and Ashwin as the slip catchers. If we need a fourth slip, it should be Pujara. Rahul should be earmarked for doing short leg most often.

No two saurashtra player outside india it's indian policy
 

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Saw almost all English wickets and good spells. DK helped Ashwin a lot with his lengths. And after an era of having MS and Saha keeping and both of them mostly being mute, DK is quite a chatterbox with those mics turned up!
 

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Major reasons we were beaten because poor captaincy and Fielding placement by our skipper plus during Rashid ( a left handers with FC average of 19 only) and Curran stand, vk not gave bowling to Ash for 60 minutes.
 

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I think Buttler should drops for next test.its better to includes Porter than woakes ( injury prone)

England might left out Rashid for Mo ( good game in FC)

Cook-Jennings-pope-Root-bairstow-Buttler-Mo-Curran-Broad-porter-Anderson ( any Asian team will surrender with this attack in England)

When Ben returns next test, removes Buttler from test format.
 

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The only change I would like to see is Pujara coming in in place of Dhawan and getting to play the remaining 4 Tests irrespective of his performance in the next 3 Tests. There may still be a lot going through his head at the moment but at least having surety of a spot for the remaining matches should help.

I would continue with Pandya for the sole reason that he showed a will to fight it out there. In the first innings he got a deadly swinging yorker which could have gotten most batsmen out.

DK should also have the same T&C as Pujara. That would mean Pant missing out but that's probably for the better.

Shami should be asked to put a price on his wicket. His lax batting can be a big problem in low scoring matches.

Until Bhuvaneshwar is ready for selection, stick with Umesh and when the time comes, let he and Shami fight for the seamer's spot.

EDIT: And yes, no Bumrah please, at least not yet.
 

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The only change I would like to see is Pujara coming in in place of Dhawan and getting to play the remaining 4 Tests irrespective of his performance in the next 3 Tests. There may still be a lot going through his head at the moment but at least having surety of a spot for the remaining matches should help.

I would continue with Pandya for the sole reason that he showed a will to fight it out there. In the first innings he got a deadly swinging yorker which could have gotten most batsmen out.

DK should also have the same T&C as Pujara. That would mean Pant missing out but that's probably for the better.

Shami should be asked to put a price on his wicket. His lax batting can be a big problem in low scoring matches.

Until Bhuvaneshwar is ready for selection, stick with Umesh and when the time comes, let he and Shami fight for the seamer's spot.

EDIT: And yes, no Bumrah please, at least not yet.

I assure you there will be changes for the next game. There's no chance Umesh is playing considering how much he was used in the second innings. It will be another daft selection. I personally see Shardul Thakur making his debut. It's a stupid move, but it is what it is. No issues with Shardul. In fact I think he's a good bowler and the conditions will suit him, but I'd still pick Yadav.
 

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I assure you there will be changes for the next game. There's no chance Umesh is playing considering how much he was used in the second innings. It will be another daft selection. I personally see Shardul Thakur making his debut. It's a stupid move, but it is what it is. No issues with Shardul. In fact I think he's a good bowler and the conditions will suit him, but I'd still pick Yadav.

Yadav looked really menacing in the second innings. It would be foolish to drop him for the next test. Except for his first spell in the first innings, he was really good.
 

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I personally see Shardul Thakur making his debut.
I think Umesh will be dropped for sure and Kuldeep might come in his place and Pandya will be used as the third seamer.

It would be foolish to drop him for the next test.
If only this was known to the people making the decisions.
 

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Yadav looked really menacing in the second innings. It would be foolish to drop him for the next test. Except for his first spell in the first innings, he was really good.
And did himself no harm with the bat too
 

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Yadav looked really menacing in the second innings. It would be foolish to drop him for the next test. Except for his first spell in the first innings, he was really good.

Isn't that what this leadership and management are all about?
 

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