India tour of New Zealand 2020 - 5 T20Is, 3 ODIs, 2 Tests

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Kohli's current form is a long way away from what he showed in the England tour where he was absolutely sublime. Genuinely believed that he had a chance to be as good as Smith at that time.
 

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Actually what I feel is since the rest of the batting line-up isn't doing well Kohli is taking upon himself to do the scoring due to which he is pressurized to take that extra risk which he usually doesn't do. He should rather keep it simple and do only what he actually could do i.e. to score his own runs.
 

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Actually what I feel is since the rest of the batting line-up isn't doing well Kohli is taking upon himself to do the scoring due to which he is pressurized to take that extra risk which he usually doesn't do. He should rather keep it simple and do only what he actually could do i.e. to score his own runs.

This is not true, as by this logic Kohli wouldn't have even crossed thirty once in England where the rest of the lineup was terrible.
 

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Some of the batting tactics in this second innings has been very questionable. The objective should have been to tire out the bowlers (as Kane is unlikely to bowl Patel for extended periods) by playing cautious cricket to stand any chance of salvaging something from the game, with one batsman being slightly aggressive at times to just keep the minimum pressure on New Zealand. This was best exemplified by the Pujara-Agarwal partnership. Instead, all of the four soft dismissals came to entirely avoidable deliveries (or in case of Pujara, one that should have been played :p).
 

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This is not true, as by this logic Kohli wouldn't have even crossed thirty once in England where the rest of the lineup was terrible.
I think in England things were a lot different. England was the only second Overseas tour in SENA countries under the reigns of Kohli. Now since India have lost Test series in South Africa and England along with not being able to win the World Cup with all that boasting from one of the best coaches (the worst I would say :p) in the World brings an added pressure on Kohli to perform. What he needed was just couple of dismissals like these to just get back on track. It isn't always possible to dismiss him this early. Those dismissals would surely be in his mind and he would just want to get on with this and would want to make up for this in the next match. This has often happened with a class player like Kohli.
 

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Somehow I still have that belief that there is still something left to happen in this match. Like last time I remember on this very ground when both these teams played, the Kiwis were in similar position as that of India. Something 60/5 in the 2nd innings trailing by more than 200 runs. Brendon McCullum and BJ Watling put on an incredible partnership with McCullum scoring that famous triple hundred. Now I am not expecting any of the batsman to score that but somewhere a big hundred from either of these players and get the lead around 200.
 

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Didn't really expect this. Absolute shame !!!!

Ishant and Mayank are the only ones to emerge with some form of credit. Maybe Rahane and Pant if we are being generous.
 

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If anyone watched the match, can you tell how was Pant's keeping?

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England = India is proved so far.
 

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Ishant and Mayank are the only ones to emerge with some form of credit. Maybe Rahane and Pant if we are being generous.
The likes of Kohli and Pujara were miserable. Bumrah looked ineffective with the ball. Ashwin continued to struggle in SENA countries and have switched back to the bowling he is used to do earlier. The over-defensive batsmanship put the pressure back on the batsman and hence they were forced to play an agressive shot.[DOUBLEPOST=1582533748][/DOUBLEPOST]
If anyone watched the match, can you tell how was Pant's keeping?
From what I saw it was a lot better than earlier.
 

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The likes of Kohli and Pujara were miserable. Bumrah looked ineffective with the ball. Ashwin continued to struggle in SENA countries and have switched back to the bowling he is used to do earlier. The over-defensive batsmanship put the pressure back on the batsman and hence they were forced to play an agressive shot.[DOUBLEPOST=1582533748][/DOUBLEPOST]
From what I saw it was a lot better than earlier.

Ashwin was our second best bowler on a pitch that had nothing for spinners. His NZ counterpart bowled only six overs in the entire game. I do believe that we are guilty of wanting to see him bowl match winning spells like he does in Asia but these conditions don't suit him at all and he did an adequate job as the defensive spinner who picks up a few wickets.

Bumrah grew into the game eventually but I agree on him being ineffective largely due to his drop in pace. He was also a bit inconsistent with his line at times and I believe that a large reason for our fairly competitive games in SENA tours recently was due to his partnership with Ishant. If he doesn't get back into form soon, we will most likely continue conceding totals above par without having the batting strength to back us up.

Shami was wasteful in the first innings' as usual and Ishant was magnificent as he has always been. Like I've always said, Ishant is the most irreplaceable bowler in this test lineup and hopefully at least now he gets the recognition that he has always deserved for years.

If I had to blame one aspect for our loss, it would have to be the batting which has shown no growth since the last SENA tour with the two most senior batsmen regressing. This is the same ground where Mendis and Mathews batted an entire day to save a test and where Bangladesh put up a mammoth total themselves. Even if the conditions were tougher in this test, to collapse for two subpar totals is terrible and the lack of fight or competitiveness shown throughout was very worrying. For a captain and coach that emphasizes on the 'intent' aspect everytime and loses knockout games as a result of it, the lack of the same in this game was noteworthy.
 

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Ashwin was our second best bowler on a pitch that had nothing for spinners. His NZ counterpart bowled only six overs in the entire game. I do believe that we are guilty of wanting to see him bowl match winning spells like he does in Asia but these conditions don't suit him at all and he did an adequate job as the defensive spinner who picks up a few wickets.

Bumrah grew into the game eventually but I agree on him being ineffective largely due to his drop in pace. He was also a bit inconsistent with his line at times and I believe that a large reason for our fairly competitive games in SENA tours recently was due to his partnership with Ishant. If he doesn't get back into form soon, we will most likely continue conceding totals above par without having the batting strength to back us up.

Shami was wasteful in the first innings' as usual and Ishant was magnificent as he has always been. Like I've always said, Ishant is the most irreplaceable bowler in this test lineup and hopefully at least now he gets the recognition that he has always deserved for years.

If I had to blame one aspect for our loss, it would have to be the batting which has shown no growth since the last SENA tour with the two most senior batsmen regressing. This is the same ground where Mendis and Mathews batted an entire day to save a test and where Bangladesh put up a mammoth total themselves. Even if the conditions were tougher in this test, to collapse for two subpar totals is terrible and the lack of fight or competitiveness shown throughout was very worrying. For a captain and coach that emphasizes on the 'intent' aspect everytime and loses knockout games as a result of it, the lack of the same in this game was noteworthy.
Exactly what I think. We used him as a strike bowler and not someone who would bowl us the overs to restrict the run flow. But I felt Jadeja over Ashwin was a better choice because of Jadeja able to contribute with the bat. Also Jadeja in these conditions is more experienced than Ashwin so atleast he should get a game considering his batting contribution.

I felt Bumrah was consistently bowling on the pads of the batsman which to me seemed to be a worrying factor for sure.

Agree with that intent thing. You were absolutely spot on when you said that !
 

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