Indian Premier League - General Discussion

[wasteyouryouth]

The amounts being shelled out are quite staggering! For Ahmedabad, it was widely tipped to be an IPL city-and I get the buzz. However, Lucknow going for 7200 crore is bizarre. For a company to invest this much amount into a Tier 3 city in India, its going to be tough for them to generate revenues from the same. If the BCCI expand it to a 12 team league (in 3 years time), the amounts that would be bid against the likes of Pune, Vizag,Kochi could be even more staggering than this.

Don't get me wrong- the league would expand from here on. I believe the idea is to create a mega 16 team league with promotions and relegations, akin to the Premier Leagues one has in football. Slowly, but steadily they are getting there.



Dharamsala was in the fray alongside Cuttack, Indore and Guwahati. Apart from Indore, none of the other cities got a bid. Again, for such cities to come back, some basic economic aspects need to be satisfied:
1. Classy International Airport
2. Availability of 5 star hotels
3. Ability to expand business
4. Support from local government



You are spot on! Lot of talk as to why cities like Pune, Vizag were excluded from the bidding here. The simple reason being that Ahmedabad and Lucknow belong to BJP strongholds which would be going into regional elections next year. The rationale from the BJP on this occasion being that they wanted to tap into the Hindi speaking market. IMO, presence of an IPL franchise wouldn't suddenly evoke the Hindi speakers to start following the game. In India, any cricketing activity can give you instant revenues.

I saw an image of the bidding and there was one bid for another city. Everything else was Lucknow and Ahmedabad.

 

[icyman]

How many of you see the IPL going the way the US sporting leagues are going?

I feel, with such high bid amounts, the BCCI would be tempted to offer a couple of teams every 5 years and ultimately expand the league.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

How many of you see the IPL going the way the US sporting leagues are going?

I feel, with such high bid amounts, the BCCI would be tempted to offer a couple of teams every 5 years and ultimately expand the league.

Thought the same too. BCCI will be thinking 'ooh, look at these losing bids' let's add two more teams in a couple of years.

 

[icyman]

This also raises the question of a global T20 tournament. The ICC has been stupid enough to not to run one on the lines of the UEFA Champions League. Yes, it was attempted in the past (but, the number of India teams started getting out of hand there)

If not the ICC, at least the BCCI should attempt to host one such tournament, every 2 years- stick to the finalists only please!

 

[chiefdave]

This also raises the question of a global T20 tournament. The ICC has been stupid enough to not to run one on the lines of the UEFA Champions League. Yes, it was attempted in the past (but, the number of India teams started getting out of hand there)

If not the ICC, at least the BCCI should attempt to host one such tournament, every 2 years- stick to the finalists only please!

How can you have a Champions League type format when the same players play for multiple clubs?

 

[icyman]

How can you have a Champions League type format when the same players play for multiple clubs?

When it was first mooted, the same concern had taken centerstage. The solution is to have the franchisees pay out each other in the event of clash.

Pollard plays for Trinbago Knight Riders and Mumbai Indians. The choice of which franchise to represent would rest ideally with the player here. It has happened in the past where the players have represented the IPL franchisees. In such a situation, MI pays a certain amount to TKR for Pollard's services for the rest of the Champions League.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

How can you have a Champions League type format when the same players play for multiple clubs?

The only way I think you could do it was to have a truly global league where all teams have the same budgets and can sign the players from the same pool.

If you had to limit players to just one team then the IPL teams would pay the players to not play for others and you'd end up with a mini IPL.

 

[Targaryen]

More teams means more matches, and more talented players taking part in the tournament.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

IPL retention rules: old teams can keep four players ahead of 2022 auction, three early picks for new teams

After the list of retained players is finalised, the two new franchises will get first choice from the rest of the pool ahead of the auction

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

IPL retention rules: old teams can keep four players ahead of 2022 auction, three early picks for new teams

After the list of retained players is finalised, the two new franchises will get first choice from the rest of the pool ahead of the auction

www.espncricinfo.com

Dhoni and Kohli, too, don't have their futures clearly laid out.

AFAIK, Kohli hasn't said that he is retiring from IPL. Plus if we consider his statement that he would like to retire as an RCB player it is pretty certain where he is heading to.

 

[asprin]

IPL retention rules: old teams can keep four players ahead of 2022 auction, three early picks for new teams

After the list of retained players is finalised, the two new franchises will get first choice from the rest of the pool ahead of the auction

www.espncricinfo.com

Considering you're calling it a mega auction and considering addition of two new teams, I would say retention of 4 players is too high. The new teams might not get the best of the lot.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Considering you're calling it a mega auction and considering addition of two new teams, I would say retention of 4 players is too high. The new teams might not get the best of the lot.

You've also got to take a look at the fan base of certain franchises. If few players whom the fans are rooting for are suddenly not a part of the team they are supporting it would affect the popularity of IPL.

We are not into the 3rd season where RCB fans won't get affected with Dravid going to RR. I doubt if CSK supporters would want to watch IPL if Dhoni is playing for some other franchise unless CSK ceases to exist.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Considering you're calling it a mega auction and considering addition of two new teams, I would say retention of 4 players is too high. The new teams might not get the best of the lot.

Agree. 32 players, that could (probably won't) be 32 of the best Indian players.

Ahmedabad and Lucknow will be getting the likes of Manan Vohra, Sreesanth and Pawan Negi.

 

[asprin]

You've also got to take a look at the fan base of certain franchises. If few players whom the fans are rooting for are suddenly not a part of the team they are supporting it would affect the popularity of IPL.

Fair enough. That's why I feel two retentions per team should suffice. If I look at some of the teams:

CSK - Dhoni and Gaikwad?
MI - Rohit and Bumrah?
DC - Pant and Iyer/Dhawan?
SRH - Williamson and Rashid?
RCB - Kohli and ABD?

The point is to have a level playing field. Don't think it's possible with 4x retentions as that would possibly mean 28 players out of contention for the other remaining teams.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

CSK - Dhoni and Gaikwad?

Jadeja & Moeen Ali

Rohit and Bumrah?

Kishan/SKY & Pollard

DC - Pant and Iyer/Dhawan

Ashwin & Nortje/Rabada

All the above players are core players. We can do away with a player or two but not actually affecting the cores majorly.