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Of course CSK buys Bhagath again and finishes their auction.
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The lord deserves better.

What was the use of Bhagath Varma? Could as well have tried for Dinesh Bana. CSK have completed their squad of 25 and do not have an Indian backup wicketkeeper. We had Jagadeesan till last year, and I was thinking they will get Bana who has been in CSK nets for sometime now.

As usual, another mixed auction for CSK! Fans seem happy with the Stokes pick, but no death bowler picked, can hurt CSK.
 

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Root finally bought. Sanity prevails.

KKR having two Bangaldeshi players when they're leaving midway is very dubious. Litton will at least be quality when he's present though.
 

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Why on earth would you not try to fill up your squad when you have three slots and plenty of money left? Is this one of Bayliss' themes where he prefers to work with a smaller squad?
 

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Jamieson hasn't played a T20 game since Sep 2021. But..... when CSK play an away game on a seaming/bouncy pitch, CSK could unleash Jamieson with his height and pace, while also having him bat useful down the order.

I think lot of experts are calling for Conway, Ali and Stokes to play together but according to me - NOT HAPPENING! One of Pretorius or Pathirana will have to play to cover the death overs. Theekshana will open bowling with Mukesh in Chepauk, but it's risky to bowl Theekshana at death since he is a spinner.
 

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Jamieson hasn't played a T20 game since Sep 2021. But..... when CSK play an away game on a seaming/bouncy pitch, CSK could unleash Jamieson with his height and pace, while also having him bat useful down the order.

I think lot of experts are calling for Conway, Ali and Stokes to play together but according to me - NOT HAPPENING! One of Pretorius or Pathirana will have to play to cover the death overs. Theekshana will open bowling with Mukesh in Chepauk, but it's risky to bowl Theekshana at death since he is a spinner.

Yeah I can see poor Conway having to sit out yet again due to team balance but he’s not looking as good now as he did last year. Wonder what your preferred XI is like?
 

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Yeah I can see poor Conway having to sit out yet again due to team balance but he’s not looking as good now as he did last year. Wonder what your preferred XI is like?

For Chepauk, I am thinking this as of now....

Ruturaj
Stokes
Rahane
Moeen
Rayudu
Dhoni
Jadeja
Chahar
Pretorius
Theekshana
Solanki

Substitutes:
Mukesh
Simarjeet
Dube
Hangargekar
 

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For Chepauk, I am thinking this as of now....

Ruturaj
Stokes
Rahane
Moeen
Rayudu
Dhoni
Jadeja
Chahar
Pretorius
Theekshana
Solanki

Substitutes:
Mukesh
Simarjeet
Dube
Hangargekar

I'm surprised you'd be willing to play Rahane at three when he's been a disaster there. He's also been very poor as an opener too in recent years. To me he should stay far away from the team but I suspect he'll play just because experience is king.

Gaikwad
Stokes
Mo
Dube
Rayudu
Jadeja
Pretorius
Dhoni
Chahar
Theekshana
Simarjeet/Solanki

This would be my preferred XI. Keep Conway ready to go in place of either Stokes or Mo if they lose form. I can't see Dube dropping out after the season he had last time and he offers a lot more flexibility to the side than Rahane. Simarjeet wasn't used properly by us last season at all and I hope we rectify it this season, the lad is quality. Same goes for Solanki who I rate decently. Can't decide between the two as we do already have three spin options without Solanki added in and we did make mockery of the need for a wrist spinner when we won the 2021 IPL. Theekshana can make way for Jamieson on a pace friendly pitch I guess. I'd look to groom Rasheed to replace his fellow statesman Rayudu by the end of the season but I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't ready yet. I have no faith in Chahar being fit enough to last the entire season so Mukesh could be a handy replacement for him. If we don't have Chahar fully available for the season I'd look into releasing him and trying to trade in a few younger players for that money.

I'm surprised that we have not one but three backups for Jadeja including an overseas one! :D My only worry is that we have no backup to Dhoni. There's no specialist keeper in the team and he'll be playing the IPL yet again after a year of hiatus. I don't want to rely on Rayudu or be forced into playing Conway and upsetting the team balance if we happen to miss him for a few games. I wonder how we'll exploit the impact player rule too... our squad filled with all-rounders is perhaps the one that least needs it. Maybe we could just use it to have Mukesh and Chahar swing the ball in the powerplay and then swap Mukesh out for Pretorius if we're chasing. :D
 

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I'm surprised you'd be willing to play Rahane at three when he's been a disaster there. He's also been very poor as an opener too in recent years. To me he should stay far away from the team but I suspect he'll play just because experience is king.

Gaikwad
Stokes
Mo
Dube
Rayudu
Jadeja
Pretorius
Dhoni
Chahar
Theekshana
Simarjeet/Solanki

This would be my preferred XI. Keep Conway ready to go in place of either Stokes or Mo if they lose form. I can't see Dube dropping out after the season he had last time and he offers a lot more flexibility to the side than Rahane. Simarjeet wasn't used properly by us last season at all and I hope we rectify it this season, the lad is quality. Same goes for Solanki who I rate decently. Can't decide between the two as we do already have three spin options without Solanki added in and we did make mockery of the need for a wrist spinner when we won the 2021 IPL. Theekshana can make way for Jamieson on a pace friendly pitch I guess. I'd look to groom Rasheed to replace his fellow statesman Rayudu by the end of the season but I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't ready yet. I have no faith in Chahar being fit enough to last the entire season so Mukesh could be a handy replacement for him. If we don't have Chahar fully available for the season I'd look into releasing him and trying to trade in a few younger players for that money.

I'm surprised that we have not one but three backups for Jadeja including an overseas one! :D My only worry is that we have no backup to Dhoni. There's no specialist keeper in the team and he'll be playing the IPL yet again after a year of hiatus. I don't want to rely on Rayudu or be forced into playing Conway and upsetting the team balance if we happen to miss him for a few games. I wonder how we'll exploit the impact player rule too... our squad filled with all-rounders is perhaps the one that least needs it. Maybe we could just use it to have Mukesh and Chahar swing the ball in the powerplay and then swap Mukesh out for Pretorius if we're chasing. :D

The Impact Player rule says “ if the starting XI already has 4 foreigners, then a foreigner cannot be used as an Impact Player”. I feel the Impact Player rule will be used to lengthen the batting and bowling attacks of all the teams. Dube is poor with the ball and good with the bat. If CSK is playing at Chepauk, Dube could easily bat and then be swapped for a specialist bowler (or a specialist bowler can bowl their overs and then Dube comes in when CSK has to bat).

I wanted Rahane coz we have too many lefties in our Top 6. He’s not that bad. Under a good captain, he can do well. He’ll enjoy reuniting with Dhoni-Fleming (RPSG factor) and will feel valued. I doubt CSK will immediately play Rasheed. Or maybe CSK could play Senapati who’s been there since 2022.

I wish CSK can somehow create a death bowler out of Simarjeet Singh. He has the control and the economy that says he is a tight bowler. He has also had the exposure with CSK in the last season. It was CSK that created a death bowler out of Sam Curran, which played a big part in inflating his price tag massively in the auction today. They could create similar things out of a Simarjeet or even Deepak Chahar. They have to find a death bowler somewhere.
 
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The Impact Player rule says “ if the starting XI already has 4 foreigners, then a foreigner cannot be used as an Impact Player”. I feel the Impact Player rule will be used to lengthen the batting and bowling attacks of all the teams. Dube is poor with the ball and good with the bat. If CSK is playing at Chepauk, Dube could easily bat and then be swapped for a specialist bowler (or a specialist bowler can bowl their overs and then Dube comes in when CSK has to bat).

I wanted Rahane coz we have too many lefties in our Top 6. He’s not that bad. Under a good captain, he can do well. He’ll enjoy reuniting with Dhoni-Fleming (RPSG factor) and will feel valued. I doubt CSK will immediately play Rasheed. Or maybe CSK could play Senapati who’s been there since 2022.

I wish CSK can somehow create a death bowler out of Simarjeet Singh. He has the control and the economy that says he is a tight bowler. He has also had the exposure with CSK in the last season. It was CSK that created a death bowler out of Sam Curran, which played a big part in inflating his price tag massively in the auction today. They could create similar things out of a Simarjeet or even Deepak Chahar. They have to find a death bowler somewhere.

From what I know of Senapati he isn't suited to T20 batting. With how fluid our batting order is I don't think we'll have to worry about having an extra left handed batter or two... I don't see many off-spinners in teams these days either (Ashwin, Sundar and Narine are the only ones I can think of that have a good chance of playing) in comparison to left arm orthodox and wrist spinners. Kuldeep and Kartikeya might be the only other ones who can trouble is but Kuldeep usually prefers bowling googlies anyways. I'm really not sold on Rahane :D he hasn't done the job at three different franchises recently and was never a great T20 batter to begin with. Serviceable yes but I feel like he's the type of batter that T20 has moved on from and it is a bit disappointing that we're still trying to have them around in the team.

In my hypothetical scenario we'd be going in with only three overseas players anyways so Pretorius could come in. I do agree that teams will seek to just extend their batting orders or have an extra bowling option in place of a batter but I feel that is a fairly simplistic way to use this rule.. it's much better utilized in maximizing match-ups and creating unfavourable situations or having the benefit of a bowler who can do the job in a different way after the previous one is done. There's still a lot of other ways to use this rule that I'm probably not even imagining.. @Aislabie may have some good ideas.

Simarjeet has all the attributes to be a decent death bowler. He didn't play in the recent domestic white ball tournaments (I'm assuming he was injured) so it is a bit tough to assess where he stands currently. I wouldn't want Chahar to be turned into a death bowler.. he's world class up front with his swing and accuracy and can take wickets that swing the game massively in our favour early on. Wouldn't mind him bowling one over at the death because he seems to have developed a good yorker but any beyond that feels risky. At Chepauk I feel we can get by with an over of Jadeja at the death, one from Chahar and two from Pretorius. Pretorius impressed me heavily last year with how he mixed his deliveries up and used the seam.. it's highly likely that the reason we moved on from Bravo and didn't pursue Curran as aggressively as possible without exploring other death bowling options too is because there's been a trust placed in Pretorius that I wish was done last season itself.
 

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In my hypothetical scenario we'd be going in with only three overseas players anyways so Pretorius could come in. I do agree that teams will seek to just extend their batting orders or have an extra bowling option in place of a batter but I feel that is a fairly simplistic way to use this rule.. it's much better utilized in maximizing match-ups and creating unfavourable situations or having the benefit of a bowler who can do the job in a different way after the previous one is done. There's still a lot of other ways to use this rule that I'm probably not even imagining.. @Aislabie may have some good ideas.
Yeah this is absolutely my jam - I've been thinking about ways to implement substitutions into T20 cricket for years.

It would be much easier if they allowed teams to swap an overseas player for another overseas player, but the challenge would doubtless be part of the fun. And there's more than enough Indian talent to go around.

I would absolutely not look to do anything for the batting (although if it came to it, I would include a batter in my subs pool just in case there was a spectacular first innings collapse. However, my main plan would be to use it to cover bowling options. I would have a spare pace bowler and a spare spin bowler to cover for injuries that might happen in the first ten overs or so of the fielding effort. But my main goal would be to include a bowler to specialise in bowling death overs - all four of their quota in the last 10. If none of your starting XI is a suitable back-up keeper it might be worth including one on the bench, but I'm not completely sure whether the IPL wishes for all substitute fielders to come from the subs bench or not. It would be sensible if they did, but this might be a loophole.

So something like:
  1. :ind: :bat: Mayank Agarwal
  2. :ind: :bat: Rahul Tripathi
  3. :nzf: :wk: Glenn Phillips :os:
  4. :eng: :bat: Harry Brook :os:
  5. :ind: :bat: Abhishek Sharma
  6. :ind: :bat: Abdul Samad
  7. :ind: :ar: Washington Sundar
  8. :afg: :ar: Rashid Khan :os:
  9. :saf: :ar: Marco Jansen :os:
  10. :ind: :bwl: Bhuvneshwar Kumar
  11. :ind: :bwl: Umran Malik
  • :ind: :bat: Samarth Vyas
  • :ind: :bwl: Mayank Markande
  • :ind: :bwl: T. Natarajan
  • :ind: :bwl: Kartik Tyagi
I've picked this on the basis that your back-up keeper does not have to come off the bench.

However, I do have a bolder selection if anyone feels particularly brave:
  • Start Rashid Khan on the bench.
That definitely seems insane, but think about it: if you bat first, then you just sub him in for whichever of your opening batters gets out first, and you immediately get a bonus death hitter as well as all of his overs with the ball. If you bowl first, then your designated new-ball bowler (presumably Jansen) can bowl out in the first half of the innings, and then you replace him with a full quota of Rashid Khan.

Of course, if you need to have all sub fielders coming off the bench, then you'll need to have a decent back-up gloveman in your starting XI to cover for that particular emergency.

Also, Sunrisers are absolutely STACKED, what a squad.
 

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