My very own review (Alls not well)

crick4life

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Got the game today, had a session (English county) and mixed reactions from me on this. I reserve certain comments on gameplay as of now given short of play. Just to aid my comments, here are my pc specs :

XP2100 AMD CPU, 768 MB DDR Ram, AGP Geforce Ti4200 128 MB Graphics card. Not the best but certainly way over what is recommended by EA.

A. Game Installation :

1. Piece of cake, no issues at all.

B. Game display settings :

1. 1028 x 1024 - 32 bits
2. video screens - yes
3. shadows - on
4. Force LOD - High
5. Texture Filtering - Trilinear
6. Pitch detail - On

C. Review on graphics (will be adding other parts of the game as and when I try it)

Animation sucks big time, sorry guys but BLC was just too polished compared to Cricket 2004. The players look absolute shit and umpire is no good rather C2k2 umpire is Tom Cruise in comparison to this fella.

Bowler knows only one way of collecting the ball, over his head. A throw heading at knee high after pitching suddenly appears over his head.

The textures are very nice and the details are good.

Ball physics : Not present at all, its just too disappointing. A ball heading way over the diving Cover-point fielder appears in his hand from nowhere. Missing frames wont really explain how the ball came down perpendicular(bermuda triangle seems to have a hand here). Truly disappointing. At times the ball heading through the keeper's waist appears in the WK gloves out of nowhere.

I dont really want to explain much about batting animations as well or do you really want me to? Hows this for a sample, the bat is never held by the batsman but at times the shot execution looks pretty good.

The fielders and WK are either captured in Slowmo or sprinting. The wicket keeper and the fielders sprint in slowmo like on a treadmill, they take ages to get to the ball and they all look like they are overfed with pies and pints of beer. Dont worry about the height, weight and looks of the players, they all look ugly (we can live with this and surely there are many talented guys in this forum who can fix this).

Crowd is simply the old single dimension card boards who have no emotion or thrill watching a cricket game. They look worse and no surprises there.

The pitch and stadiums are of very high quality, the weather changes are evident although I might have played only around 25-30 overs. I might stand corrected on this after having a full game or two.


D. Sound and Commentary :

Guys the first thing you might want to do is turn off the commentary. It is no good and is a repeat of C2K2.

I have had only one game and there is not much to write about the ingame sound as well. They were not exciting but I agree I havent played enough to point out if the crowd sound is different in various venues.

E. Gameplay (The important one )
I played on hard mode.

1. Batting :

Feels a challenge as of now. For instance I used Vettori to heave the first ball he faced for six off a nicely pitched up delivery off Kasprowicz. I thought thats pretty much it, the game is a goner. From then on I tried big heaves and missed pretty much each one of them. The beauty of the confidence meter here was that it kept going down each time I mistimed a ball or was beaten. In the end I could not really hit anymore big shots and got out tamely hitting one to mid off. The batting looks promising for sure. Will keep you guys updated if you still arent asleep yet.
CPU bowling has improved quite a bit and it certainly doesnt bowl too many short ones as in C2K2. I had the ball meter on when I was batting maybe there is a way to turn this off. It will really help if we can turn this off and play, the ball does little off the seam and its not easy to pick. The bat isnt as broad (not meaning visually here) as in C2K2 and playing across the line to a ball moving away is dangerous(got bowled twice or thrice trying to glance like in C2K2). If we can hide the ball meter, it will make it that much more harder. If you are happy to defend you can bat for long duration without scoring much which I think is pretty realistic.

More to come if any of you guys are still interested and are keen to know my opinion.

2. Bowling

Not easy to bowl at first but with practice I could bowl line and length stuff. The CPU batting is good mix of caution and aggression although not always does it punish bad balls. Anything on leg is hit with disdain (this is good) the ones bowled full at good pace on the stumps or outside off for some reason was defended. I agree we cannot expect the CPU to bat like Lara or Tendulkar, maybe my expectation here is a bit too high. Inspite of bowling badly I could snare a wicket or two. There was a missed catch that went flying between the WK and the 1st slip. A funny looking run out and a catch to gully by the CPU batsman(it was a rank bad shot really, CPU was trying to late cut a length ball to a field which had 3 slips and 2 gully fielders). CPU batsman can be beaten although after having beaten the batsman you dont really feel like you have bowled a ripper. CPU certainly is lot intelligent than in C2k2 although I am not very sure how it will respond to targets.

Bowling changes are more on chance than on tactics from what I have seen. The CPU opened with two strike bowlers and changed the second bowler after 3 overs although he returned figures of 2/6 off 3.


More to come later.

Verdict :

C2K4 has come a long way from what BLC was in terms of gameplay and has gone way back in terms of graphics compared to C2K2.

Others like Johnsma2, Ragada are pitching in with their reviews and answers but if you like my opinion ou can ask me to answer your questions. Fire away your questions and I will try to answer as much as I can.
 
My second ever bowling effort

This is just way too disappointing. I have had a hattrick in my first serious attempt in bowling. I got Tendulkar, Gangooly and Dravid as my hat trick scalps. After 4 overs India are on 19/5 with Tuffey snaring all 5 wickets. Please someone assure me this is a one off, the conditions are overcast but the batsmen have come out all guns blazing even after having lost 3 quick wickets. Kaif I think comes out and tries a huge heave and is caught at mid on. I will check to see if this is in hard mode indeed, as of now am sure it is but let me make sure it is.

I have indeed been playing in "HARD" mode and now India (CPU) is on 60/8 after 13 overs with Harbhajan (19 not out) scoring the highest runs. It is only matter of minutes he will be out.

Dreadful running between the wickets by the CPU, it just doesnt have a clue as to when to run. Guranteed if you keep a short mid off and short mid on, they will run themselves out. Also dont really get too excited about misfields, once every four times a fielder misfields the ball. It is okay to misfield very rarely particularly the Kiwi fielders but if the misfields are depending on law of averages then it gets to pathetic levels.

The stamina is making no difference to the bowlers as well. I have bowled Bond and Tuffey on the trot for 7 each and they are looking fresh as daisy. The bowling has not become harder nor the speed has reduced, as far as I can see there is no such thing as bowlers being tired in this game. Unless these issues mentioned above changes dramatically in my future games I would reckon it is blessing in disguise for you guys in UK as the game is released couple of months after NZ release. It will give you guys enough time to make a wise decision when its released.
 
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Ravi... you can swing the ball. Also, I think it was just a fluke that India were down five wickets quickly. I would certainly check the difficulty setting.

Basically I take this is BLC 2. One thing that I find difficult to implement for anyone is the way the AI is implemented. The batting is like BLC but timing is crucial. If any of you know about statistics, its really hard to program a cricket game using a N choose K algorithm for once the ball is pitched. If you go back and do it another way you get Cricket 2002 (AI).


Just remember... its a game. There are many small details that can be fixed in a match. Lets hope EA addresses the major ones.
 
crik4life i think would have to agree with you, i played the pc version around my mates lst night, and i was disappointed with the animations and it looks like the the batsman is holdingthe bat the wrong way round maybe it was my eyes playing tricks on me?? i think you summed it well that 'C2K4 has come a long way from what BLC was in terms of gameplay and has gone way back in terms of graphics compared to C2K2.'.... one thik that realllly annoys me is the CROWD!!!!! cardboard cutouts what rubbish is that......

there are some positives in the game though ie confidence meter etc.
 
Originally posted by kmk1284
maybe ea will fix it by the time it reaches uk and yes ravi can u swing the ball

Hi KMK, I would like to think I got all my wickets with swing as well as seam. Its kind of hard to say I swung but surely its more evident than in C2K2 the swing. You dont see that classic away cutter or an off cutter as in BLC (I know we have to move on but hey) but it does move around a bit. Mate I only got to bowl with two bowlers before India folded up in under 14 overs. Sure enought there was cloud cover but it was a normal pitch. Also Nehra whom I thought is sharper than Zaheer Khan at times is a slow medium pacer in this game, lucky we can edit this game.
 
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Whoever said keep your eyes on the ball while fielding. See the mid off fielder, he has lost the ball:p The bowler is Nehra and notice the Kokubura Kahuna bat from Cricket 2002.tk, its a single dimension bat in this game.
 

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crik4life i think would have to agree with you, i played the pc version around my mates lst night, and i was disappointed with the animations and it looks like the the batsman is holdingthe bat the wrong way round maybe it was my eyes playing tricks on me?? i think you summed it well that 'C2K4 has come a long way from what BLC was in terms of gameplay and has gone way back in terms of graphics compared to C2K2.'.... one thik that realllly annoys me is the CROWD!!!!! cardboard cutouts what rubbish is that......

there are some positives in the game though ie confidence meter etc.

You are damn right intrancer, the batsman indeed likes to hold the bat the other way around at the time of stroking the ball or just after stroking the ball. Nothing wrong with your eyes there mate, its just with those in HB studios. As you put it there are positives as well but its just that no game EA sports come up with can just be taken up right away and start enjoying it, they always make room for stupid errors.

Zimrahil, Jonah, Shailesh and all others you guys might find this quite inexcusable. Notice the gameplay still has shades of BLC, inspite of me being in shambles on 20/6 after 15 overs chasing 80 or something the thumb rule as in BLC is not forgotten; the field is nicely spread with 3 fielders protecting big hits. This is what I call dumb AI.
 

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Originally posted by Salman1k
Ravi... you can swing the ball. Also, I think it was just a fluke that India were down five wickets quickly. I would certainly check the difficulty setting.

Basically I take this is BLC 2. One thing that I find difficult to implement for anyone is the way the AI is implemented. The batting is like BLC but timing is crucial. If any of you know about statistics, its really hard to program a cricket game using a N choose K algorithm for once the ball is pitched. If you go back and do it another way you get Cricket 2002 (AI).


Just remember... its a game. There are many small details that can be fixed in a match. Lets hope EA addresses the major ones.

Salman I agree with you we cannot have professional cricketers playing for us on our pc and this is just a game. What really baffles me is why do they take backward steps when they were expected to do better. Agreed they stuffed up the animation, we can live with it but after having seen those two dumb runouts and misfields based on averages, I have just given up on EA. I stand corrected if its one off as you put it but I will never be able to comprehend why they did new animation in the first place when C2K2 was way better than this one. Its all iteration and loops as far as any software is concerned if you ask me. Well let me see how I go with the game in another day or two, my idea is not to disappoint anyone but to just share my opinion.
 
the bit about the fields is pathetic - from the screen shots I have seen, they appear to STILL be using the defaults they created for BLC 99.

Can you believe that? The positioning of the fielders are unrealistic (as always), and there still appears to be no taking into account the match situation when cpu bowls.

Thanks for the update ravi - appears disappointing (as usual) lets hope the game can be editted asap, else......................
 
Hall of fame

A 6 for, a hat trick and 4 catches by the WK in the only ODI played so far :cool: . Not a bad achivement but I lost the game by 42 runs though the opposition scored only 73 runs:mad:
 

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the bit about the fields is pathetic - from the screen shots I have seen, they appear to STILL be using the defaults they created for BLC 99.

Can you believe that? The positioning of the fielders are unrealistic (as always), and there still appears to be no taking into account the match situation when cpu bowls.

Thanks for the update ravi - appears disappointing (as usual) lets hope the game can be editted asap, else......................

No worries, will have a crack at the files sometime this weekend hopefully we can hex edit. Lets see what we can do about this and you have quite a task on if you were to attempt AI changes.
 
Good luck with cracking the files - could live with crap graphics as long as gameplay is solid. Lets hope the configs are in the usual format
 
can someone fix the bowlers stamina meter and for some reason i cant swing seam or spin the ball dunno why hey ravi are u using pc or ps2 version
 
Thanks for that Ravi. I know it's early days, but man, that's disappointing. It makes me sick that a company can release another (sounds like) sub-standard game, and it's down to the likes of you and Zim to make it playable. You guys should get a cut of the profits!
Good luck with the editing; sounds like we're gonna need it...
 

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