Australia's spinning dilemma

[Dare]

Casson finished with 3 wickets from that one test he played against the WI. Average 43 and strike rate of 64, the economy was a bit too high but for his 1st test he did good in my eyes.
In my opinion Australia should pick him and stick with him.

 

[smssia0112]

I know exactly how you Aussies feel, afterall we had Phil "The Cat" Tufnell and have struggled ever since!!!!!

Not quite the superstar you want to miss.

 

[aussie1st]

The problem for the Aussies is whether you want to pick McGain, who of course is 36 and won't last forever, or go for a Casson or a Krejza who have potential but have not shown it in domestic cricket.

McGain injury may prove a blessing in disguise for our future spinner. Hes pretty much out for our summer which gives the spinner 2 Test series to show his potential which could lead to him being retained over McGain for the Ashes. Of course we really missed the boat by not at least trying a spinner in India as that would be 3 test series for our young spinner.

 

[hussburger]

In a few years time... Jonny Holland

 

[aussie1st]

I'll be crazy enough to throw him in this summer if he continues to be consistent. Although he hasn't set the world on fire hes got good control as hes shown in all levels of cricket where he economy is usually below 4. Whats impressive is the fact he hasn't been smashed out of Victoria's attack in particular his debut which saw him grab a wicket which changed the game and he was economical. That takes some doing especially for a spinner.

 

[.::Stevo::.]

Somehow clone Warne. Seriously, its our only option.

 

[aussie1st]

Casson finished with 3 wickets from that one test he played against the WI. Average 43 and strike rate of 64, the economy was a bit too high but for his 1st test he did good in my eyes.
In my opinion Australia should pick him and stick with him.

I was watching some highlights of him in his debut and he looked alright in the 2nd inns. His 1st inns is what happens to a lot of bowlers especially spinners and it was only a 2nd day pitch. So ignoring that inns, his 2nd inns he had an economy of 3.44 while more experienced bowlers like Lee and Johnson were at 4.24 and 6 respectively.

You could also say that his wickets changed the match as the Windies certainly could have chased the total down without Casson getting Marshall and then Bravo. He bowled with good flight, a bit of drift and some turn. Turn being something our spinner in India has been lacking! His wrongun is also rated as one of the hardest to pick, definitely much harder to pick than Hogg one and Chanderpaul didn't pick it a few times.

 

[smssia0112]

Somehow clone Warne. Seriously, its our only option.

Find some Bradman DNA and we won't have to!

 

[hussburger]

aussie1st, what's your opinion of Jonny Holland?

I've seen him play once and he looked the goods, but do you think he'll make it?

 

[mattfb]

I agree with you Dan. Beau Casson wasn't very good in his 1 Test Match vs West Indies earlier this year.

Neither was Warney in his first few test matches.

 

[Gilly Fan]

Maybe I should fill in. I took 2/4 from 6 overs today.

 

[karnog]

I don't mind a search for a spin bowler but there seems to be a bias for leg spin bowling. Yes it is generally more attacking and batsman prefer the offies anyday. If somepne like Colin Miller rocks up out of nowhere he should be put in the team. Mind you i'm a leggie so i'm patiently waiting for the call.

 

[aussie1st]

aussie1st, what's your opinion of Jonny Holland?

I've seen him play once and he looked the goods, but do you think he'll make it?

Haven't seen him yet, but from the scorecards I've found of him hes always very economical picking up the odd wicket or two. Hopefully I'll be able to see some highlights of him in the FRC match tomorrow.

His first FRC match was pretty impressive, he changed the game with the 2 wickets he took and went for only 44 runs. Then looking at his only FC match he managed 2 wickets for the match but his economy in both inns was under 3 and he bowled 40 odd overs which is an impressive debut for a spinner. Hopefully Victoria play him more in FC as it's hard to judge by one match especially against SA. Anyway that is the reason why I feel he has the Hughes feel about him. He has the temperament to step up to the next level and be competitive.

Hes pretty much who Robinson was describing. And irrotev mentioned the best spinners are usually un-conventional ones well Holland bowls what Vettori bowls. From what I've heard he turns it about the same as him too.