England arrogant for not making Champions League deal with India - Michael Vaughan

[rahuldravidfan]

Michael Vaughan: England arrogant for not making Champions League deal with India

I hate the fact that in this country we are arrogant and stubborn. We say "we are not letting India rule the world". Yet everyone else manages to build a relationship with India and makes a nice living off the back of it.

Just like every other country, we should be making money from the Champions League. It is here to stay. It has a 10-year television deal worth $1 billion (?637 million) and is not going to disappear. We should embrace it.

Instead we cannot accept in this country that India are the market leaders in world cricket. We resent the fact they can match the passion and fans with the financial muscle......

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Can't agree more with Mr.Vaughan on this issue. About ECB drops the hat and stops being arrogant & stubborn.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Yet again you pick and choose an article to make India look Godly and the rest of the world pathetic. This is getting so repetitive it isn't even surprising. It's clich?. Just grow up already. Please.

 

[Highlander999]

I came, I read, I rolled my eyes at same old RDF, I left.

 

[rahuldravidfan]

Yet again you pick and choose an article to make India look Godly and the rest of the world pathetic. This is getting so repetitive it isn't even surprising. It's clich?. Just grow up already. Please.

Mate, its called an opinion. Did I point a figure at you for bumming Bhajji? NO. Why? Because I know you have an opinion. Similarly, this is mine.

And Michael Vaughan seems to know a thing or 2 more about cricket than me and you do.

Please don't troll away. I have as much right of expressing my opinions as you. Please resist turning this thread into a flame-war. Comment on the thread. Not me.

Thanks

 

[Dare]

Good thing that Vaughan doesn't run English cricket.

 

[rahuldravidfan]

He suggests that ECB use the CLT20 to make a quick buck, like majority of the boards and also let the players benefit from it. And I agree with it. I don't suggest ECB & the CLT20 admins to have a 4 way go down on the knees. Just use it and milk the cow.

ECB must be feeling hard-done by the CLT20 admins but there isn't much sympathy for them, among reputed ex-cricketers and the general public in India.

 

[Brook]

Well the English teams were crap anyway last time.

 

[Dare]

I think they are concerned about it because the last time they tried to make a quick buck it ended up being with Stanford and we all know how that ended.

 

[rahuldravidfan]

I think they are concerned about it because the last time they tried to make a quick buck it ended up being with Stanford and we all know how that ended.

BCCI's, CA's & CSA's finances are cool enough to avoid issues

 

[Brook]

You don't see these clashes in football, and if you do the game is rearranged.

 

[sohum]

I think they are concerned about it because the last time they tried to make a quick buck it ended up being with Stanford and we all know how that ended.

That would be poor logic to use on the part of the ECB if they did use that logic. For several simple reasons:

1. One man versus three boards: The risk is distributed. The "partners" are fellow boards. Stanford was a relative unknown before he brought that T20 cup to the West Indies.

2. West Indies versus Worldwide: Let's face it, West Indies cricket isn't in the best financial position right now, and wasn't when Stanford came around--which is why they had to accept his infusion of cash. The Champions League, on the other hand, is a global competition powered by the three richest (or at least three of the richest) cricket boards. Couple that with the fact that it is being organized primarily by the BCCI, whose ego is too large to allow the tournament to fail.

 

[rahuldravidfan]

Some basics and a bit of know-how for ECB fans:

1. ECB chief executive, David Collier, was kept in the loop about the dates since December 2009. So its not like a thunderbolt out of the blue. They knew this way coming.

2. There isn't any window as such for the CLT20 and it has been scheduled in the best possible way.

3. If ECB has a problem and doesn't want to budge, they do know that there are 10 teams apart from 2 of theirs and that the Pakistani teams are always in the doorway with 2 of their teams, if ECB pulls out.

4. Convenience of the ECB !> convenience of 6 other boards. ECB shouldn't be expecting royal treatment when 6 participating boards out of 7 and 10 out of 12 teams have no problems with the scheduling.

5. Matches and the tournament can't be postponed because of the inconvenience of 1 board. There are various obligations all boards have to their sponsors, players and fans.

6. A compromise deal between the ECB & CLT20 is quite inevitable, despite the major trash talking by them in their media. But if they don't reach a deal, I'll be more than happy to see 2 Pakistani teams in the league.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

india are being just as stubborn though. This schedule is a blatant muscle flex by the BCCI.

I'm sure the ECB would like to build a relationship with india (certainly, them going to mumbai straight after the bombs was an act of good will and faith) but no one likes to have do it snivelling manner. Also the BCCI should realise, while the ECB may be losing out if they don't cow tow, but as one of the richer boards the ECB can hold out for a long time.

I think the BCCI realise the most credible fight to the twenty20 money pie will come from england and they want to stamp their authority over them.

 

[rahuldravidfan]

india are being just as stubborn though. This schedule is a blatant muscle flex by the BCCI.

I think everyone's losing the point here. India doesn't call the shots. BCCI doesn't call the shots.

BCCI, CA & CSA together do. CA & CSA aren't dumb enough to be manipulated by the BCCI and if we think they are, we are either underestimating them or kidding ourselves.

I'm sure the ECB would like to build a relationship with india (certainly, them going to mumbai straight after the bombs was an act of good will and faith) but no one likes to have do it snivelling manner. Also the BCCI should realise, while the ECB may be losing out if they don't cow tow, but as one of the richer boards the ECB can hold out for a long time.

I agree with the point you've made here. And I was particularly pleased to see England come back after the Mumbai blasts. It was really kind of them to

I think the BCCI realise the most credible fight to the twenty20 money pie will come from england and they want to stamp their authority over them.

I disagree with you on this. The stadiums aren't as full as they are in India, the fans aren't fanatic as they are in India and ECB doesn't have the kind of money+fans combo as India. ECB is not a threat to BCCI.

 

[Sureshot]

Some basics and a bit of know-how for ECB fans:
2. There isn't any window as such for the CLT20 and it has been scheduled in the best possible way.

Bollocks has it.