ICC Cricket World Cup - May/July 2019

[asprin]

In a way this is like playing tricks with opposition and trying to fool the opposition

I don't see any problem in being a little tactical. What's the harm in it?

It would suggest that we are afraid of playing against big teams in knockouts

I'm sorry. Help me understand what you mean by that. Are you saying being tactical implies that the fear of the opposition makes a side make changes to a team?

As a team you also need to have some sort of self-respect.

Again, how does self respect come into the picture? You play the team according to the match situation and the pitch. Resting/benching a player based on these factors in no way suggets that the a side is down on self respect.

That or I have completely missed your point.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

That or I have completely missed your point.

Exactly !!! This team promotes a brand called fearless Cricket. They are known to dominate. I've seen a team called Australia play a full-strength side even against Kenya. Why ? The reason was they wanted to play their best team and in their best abilities. I am at no point comparing our team with them. We are not even 5% of that team !!! But keeping Kuldeep Yadav out of the side makes imbalance in our team. Keeping your best bowler out of the side isn't a tactic but a foolish act. This sort of decision have cost us a Test series win in South Africa !!!! Playing Rohit Sharma ahead of Ajinkya Rahane was a complete blunder !! Just for a moment think it we lose to England and then come across back to back upsets to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. What would that result in ? Missing out a spot in the top 4. In my proper frame of mind I would never ever try this out because I know it won't work !!!

 

[asprin]

This team promotes a brand called fearless Cricket. They are known to dominate.

I see where you're coming from but I stand by my view. Making Kuldeep sit out is not a sign of weakness. This isn't to say that I'm for it - just that it won't reflect poorly on the team if they do.[DOUBLEPOST=1560768398][/DOUBLEPOST]

This sort of decision have cost us a Test series win in South Africa

The decisions made during the SA and England tours weren't tactical in nature. They were utter blunders. There's a fine line there.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I see where you're coming from but I stand by my view. Making Kuldeep sit out is not a sign of weakness. This isn't to say that I'm for it - just that it won't reflect poorly on the team if they do.[DOUBLEPOST=1560768398][/DOUBLEPOST]
The decisions made during the SA and England tours weren't tactical in nature. They were utter blunders. There's a fine line there.

Okay fair enough. Let's wait for the match. I don't think that India would try it either.

 

[Alexei.]

Just thinking if Pakistan had Abid Ali in the side, wouldn't have made a difference but his technique is x10 times better than Imam

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I don't know why will a Pakistani fan be upset losing to India in a WC match considering that it was already on cards this time around ? It isn't at all surprising to see Pakistan lose against India in a WC game. Infact to me India beating Australia this time in WC was more surprising.

 

[angad]

You know I get a feeling that Pakistan would beat South Africa in the next match and later would lose to NZ making it mandatory for them to win their next 2 matches and they would beat Afghanistan comprehensively. But I see Bangladesh upsetting them and knocking them out of the WC in their last match. What do you think guys ?

And just then Thanos will appear and snap his fingers and end the dream with "Im inevitable"

 

[Alexei.]

I don't know why will a Pakistani fan be upset losing to India in a WC match considering that it was already on cards this time around ? It isn't at all surprising to see Pakistan lose against India in a WC game. Infact to me India beating Australia this time in WC was more surprising.

No, more upsetting due to bad selection, bad captaincy. We knew it would happen but Im not only talking about this match, vs Aus and Wi? Collapses? The one against Australia.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

No, more upsetting due to bad selection, bad captaincy. We knew it would happen but Im not only talking about this match, vs Aus and Wi? Collapses? The one against Australia.

You guys talk as if Pakistan was brimming with options and talent before Imam. If anything, he looks organised and a decent player and a bloke with some passion.

 

[Master Khan]

I feel bad for Sarfaraz because people are mocking him because he was yawning during the match. I saw a lot of pictures of him yawning in a bed, office etc.
I think people should just leave him alone, yes he was poor in that match but mocking him like this is just bad.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I feel bad for Sarfaraz because people are mocking him because he was yawning during the match. I saw a lot of pictures of him yawning in a bed, office etc.
I think people should just leave him alone, yes he was poor in that match but mocking him like this is just bad.

People aren't mocking him but his body language. As a Captain you yawn around in the field so what example does it set for the rest of the players in the team ? Ever seen Dhoni yawn in his decade long tenure for the Indian team ?

 

[SaiSrini]

I don't believe in all this. In a way this is like playing tricks with opposition and trying to fool the opposition. You know what that would suggest ? It would suggest that we are afraid of playing against big teams in knockouts. We are not under-dogs in this tournament, infact we are favourites. As a team you also need to have some sort of self-respect. This sort of things sounds good for a team like Sri Lanka, West Indies or Pakistan and not for a team like India who has always been consistent in the last half decade. No need of doing such things !!!

Nothing wrong in having strategies against certain opposition. In a way, its almost getting clear now that India will likely face England in a knockout match (lot of people are predicting the final to be between these two; a semifinal clash is also possible). And these two teams are regarded as the best two ODI sides right now. It's not wrong to 'not play certain players' against England. Self respect doesn't come into this at all. You know that Kuldeep is a beast when you cannot pick him. Use him in a way that maximizes his returns. Chahal is a different bowler and can do well despite playing all games. Kuldeep is different.

Again, if you want to win tournaments and championships, you got to think out of the box.

 

[CerealKiller]

Also, a huge fan of Karachi Khatmal now.

He's a genius. Don't why he doesn't write for Cricinfo anymore. Hassan Cheema as well.

 

[Aalay]

Just wanted to make a point on Andre Russell. We all know he is not 100% and playing with some discomfort in his knees. I know West Indies wanted him to play in this WC because of the impact player he is and the great form he was in coming into the tournament. However for future, If I am in charge of WICB, I am telling him to go and get 100% fit. Until you don't achieve that 100% fitness level or even 90%, you are not playing anywhere. Not for WI, not for Jamaica and certainly not for any T20 leagues around the world. If you have to compensate him for that, do it. I know the WICB is not that strong financially but at least compensate him with something that both party can agree on just because he is a world class player when he is on the ground. Russel himself also needs to realize that if he wants prolong his career, he has to take a step back when he is injured. I know that playing in these T20 leagues is his livelihood since he hasn't played for WI a lot in the past few years but he has to work on his fitness. I remember him playing with an injury throughout this IPL as well. Not only he was playing with a knee injury but he also had some discomfort in his wrist as well. So even though money being offered to him is very tempting for any individual in his position, he has to put his body first in these kinds of situations where he seriously needs help with his body. So far what I have seen in this WC is him breaking down after bowling 2 overs in a row. Same thing happened today and I know he has come back now but it just doesn't help especially when you are so important to your team.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Self respect doesn't come into this at all.

I think it does. Because when you are claiming yourself to be a dominant side then you don't go out there to play mind games with opposition. You have to be 100% in what you do. Keeping Kuldeep out just for the sake that England doesn't pick him doesn't sound logical to me. The reason why England faltered to Kuldeep Yadav at Trent Bridge was that they were looking to hit every ball out of the park just for the sake of scoring 350+ and that cost them but at Lord's and Headingly England realised the fact that you can't always swing the bat as strike rotation is equally important and that is why Kuldeep was played in a better way by them. It was nothing to do with them picking Kuldeep or not. And in that series we neither had Bhuvi, nor Bumrah, nor Shami. We had run-machine legend Mr.Umesh Yadav to let off the pressure of England along with an inexperienced Siddharth Kaul so pressure was already released when these 2 bowled so that is why they did not feel the heat while facing Kuldeep Yadav. I am banking on it Kuldeep Yadav will play both matches(if we are to face England in knockouts) and he would still trouble them !!!