Planet Cricket Skill Points System (attn all members)

[siddharth2002]

@ all members, thanks for replies and voting in favour. I'll reply to everybody tomorrow. Atm my gf is home and demanding attention.
Thanks

 

[cricket doctor]

IMO point system for no. of threads created should need to be revised because at times some people create unnecessary and senseless threads, so in that case they will earn points for which they don' t deserve.
Its a great idea(skill points system) anyways. :hpraise

 

[embi]

how will you find out the number of downloads, member might himself download it many times to increase his download count.

Well, that would be a stupid waste of time just to increase a number below your username.

 

[saurabh2185]

Well i didn't mean to say download the patch again and again. The user just need to click to begin the download and then cancel it, no need of complete download as it's count depends upon no. of clicks not no. of complete downloads.

 

[FreddieFan]

But some patches may suck completely so number of downloads has to be considered as well

I agree with that to a certain extent, but I personally make patches for ICC 2005 and the demand is obviously less that Cricket 2005 patches, resulting in far fewer downloads. Will the game they are made for be taken into account?

 

[BigCrickNan]

I think this value thing is a bit too serious tbh. Some idiots might start judging people on their skills points. The current one in the other thread with a couple of extra factors would be better imo.

 

[Kev]

To be honest I always thought rep was a good guide to go by (people with good rep are generally ok), I'm not sure all this is really needed and agree with drew that its getting a bit over serious.

 

[BigCrickNan]

Ye, having seen the thing Prakash made I think this is getting a bit out of hand. The small one is ok, but the big listing thing will make some people (Preferbly idiots) get jealous or boast.

 

[Abhas]

It's a nice concept and we can surely try it out.
we can judge ourselves (and others) relative to another factor.
IMO...game on!!!

BTW... Barmy...congrats, when did u become admin???

 

[The Spin]

I like the idea a lot

I was trying to work mine out and I think it will be around 10000. I havent counted my words so i dont know for sure. Can you check?

 

[siddharth2002]

This spam factor needs looking at. The way you've structured it, everybody with more than 5000 posts is going to lose 100 points. Colin is going to lose almost 170 points, and he never spams.

I think that the spam factor can be removed. Most spam posts are deleted, or get negative rep, and the others are all in the forums that don't get included in the post count. It's a superfluous factor in my opinion.

Alright then its been taken out temporarily though. Although 170 out of 20000 is not as big loss.

Yeah, it's a bit of a contradiction having the highest wordcount and losing points for spamming. I also don't know how your calculating downloads; I've no idea how many I've made but I've been at it for 3 years!!! Also are you planning on weighting a bat the same as a Player Editor?

I actually don't know what king of and how Planet Cricket stores its database so its all assumptions. If it cannot than may have to take downloads out too.

The posts that need deleting will continue to be deleted as if we just blank it with a warning then other staff members won't know what was there.

I did say if posts are offensive then should be deleted. That was meant for spams and Off-topic ones.

I think those are just figures he put randomly,after all the no.of pathes made are 5 for you and 7 for me

Yup, all made up figures.

Finding how many patches people have made is basically impossible. The person that post the downloads in the download center has mostly not made it. Definitely not something php could figure out.

Yeah so that means that PlanetCricket database do not have records of number of downloads by patcmakers. Then I believe that facor has to go out as well.
Sorry Patch-makers!!

IMO point system for no. of threads created should need to be revised because at times some people create unnecessary and senseless threads, so in that case they will earn points for which they don' t deserve.
Its a great idea(skill points system) anyways. :hpraise

Yeah , but I did mention that when that thread gets closed as it usually does, skill points will be taken off from the member manually by the mods.

I think this value thing is a bit too serious tbh. Some idiots might start judging people on their skills points. The current one in the other thread with a couple of extra factors would be better imo.

Yup I think the other is pretty god and everyone liked it too but I had to oblige to memebers and patch-makers' requests to include everything.

Yeah

To be honest I always thought rep was a good guide to go by (people with good rep are generally ok), I'm not sure all this is really needed and agree with drew that its getting a bit over serious.

I am thinking that as nobody had objections to my first one, Prakash has already created the PHP version of my first one. MaybeI can refine it a bit with a couple of things and neglect the current one in this thread..

I like the idea a lot

I was trying to work mine out and I think it will be around 10000. I havent counted my words so i dont know for sure. Can you check?

We actualy don't know the Php script to count that, its only estimation atm.

Edit - Ok, I've updated the equation and taken out couple of factors. I'd like to know more opinions please. Atm for patch-makers, there's already extra points available for being a patch-creator through User-Level factor. But if someone comes up with a good patch and gets good reviews by the "Reviewing Committee" can be given points in "Reward" manually by mods.
Thanks

 

[Kev]

Sorry mate but I just think with all the stats you've forgotten the most important thing, how helpful a person is overall, this can't be measured in post count or patch quantity or threads opened or anything like that its a general feeling and can't be quantified. To me a person who doesn't post much and doesn't start lots of threads, but when he posts provides short answers that prove helpful is much more valuable than someone who posts long monologues daily and makes a bat for c2005 every other day. With a points system attached to everyone these people wont be recognised and you risk making people jealous.
I honestly think most people already know who the valuable members are and do not need a points system, after all the rep system does work exactly because it doesnt stick to a ridgid rule structure like your system proposes.

 

[siddharth2002]

Sorry mate but I just think with all the stats you've forgotten the most important thing, how helpful a person is overall, this can't be measured in post count or patch quantity or threads opened or anything like that its a general feeling and can't be quantified. To me a person who doesn't post much and doesn't start lots of threads, but when he posts provides short answers that prove helpful is much more valuable than someone who posts long monologues daily and makes a bat for c2005 every other day. With a points system attached to everyone these people wont be recognised and you risk making people jealous.
I honestly think most people already know who the valuable members are and do not need a points system, after all the rep system does work exactly because it doesnt stick to a ridgid rule structure like your system proposes.

You are right but I wonder if members will actualy feel jealous because I happen to be one you are mentioning above who doesn't create much threads and don't make any bat-packs either but have been spending 2-4 hours every Sunday trying to keep the Cricsim Stats running. And I have no problems if I have lesser skill-pints. Its only a little statistic.

EDIT - Would like to add here that even Rep system has faults in it going by your way. Members can earn rep points easily by exploing the vCash feature.
So this is just another little thing that can go under username and Rep factor also stays, nobody is taking that away. I've seen at few other websites where admins have such low skill points where as a general member had lots more. Now that doesn't make other members think that the admins are less valuable than member.
Now please notice that this skill points system is being designed keeping general members in mind because being a mod or admin is already rewarding itself in other ways. We don't need skill points to recognise that.
Put it this way, we don't have a recognition factor for members with 2000-3000+ posts and who are not mods, this might just give them something to cheer on.

 

[andrew_nixon]

I did say if posts are offensive then should be deleted. That was meant for spams and Off-topic ones.

Then those posts would count towards post count. A lot of people span simply to get their post count up, and if those posts are just blanked rather than deleted, it won't discourage spamming. Plus, other staff need to know why it was deleted, and what was deleted.

 

[siddharth2002]

Then those posts would count towards post count. A lot of people span simply to get their post count up, and if those posts are just blanked rather than deleted, it won't discourage spamming. Plus, other staff need to know why it was deleted, and what was deleted.

I m not saying that I m unhappy with the current way of handling them, its all good but I am only suggesting that by taking away some skill-points from a player with a small warning will put them on right track and that automatically negates the points earned by making those posts, infact it will penalise them some points. It also gives a visible indication to other (new)members about whats been happening and what shouldn't be posted. have a look at the screenie-

Still all up to admins and mods discretion whichever way they like.