Response from ECB regarding AC13...

[BigAntStudios]

I think we're smarter than that, at least, a good chunk of us are. That kid up there whinging because he actively does not bother to read threads doesn't get to complain when we doesn't read all the information available.

When you're not shown anything right up until a "surprise" release, you have to smell a rat. You're only buying the game if you're bored, stupid or genuinely duped because you've not had access to PlanetCricket for whatever reason.

People have to be smarter.

I probably got on a bit of a rant but I did try to warn everyone of the "history" of these developers in my early days on here I think....

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I don't understand why they didn't release it more expensively than they ended up doing. Surely the same people who bought the game would have
been just as gullible for ?5-?10 more.
They might also have fooled some more people into thinking it was a good standard, or was the price not up to 505?

They would have thought that at $20 no one will complain.


I predicted for a long time before it was $20 that this would be a $20 game, and that on that basis I could not compete in the market with it.

 

[Langeveldt]

[*]You're not "starved" there's another game LITERALLY around the corner that's about to come out? Why not save that $20 for a controller, or DLC for that game?
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Getting it on Xbox, don't worry

Until I have it spun up in my drive and I'm bowling and the opposition are 326/7 after day one of a test match, with wickets shared between quicks and spinners, without any alterations to normal playing of the game, and a wide variety of dismissals, I'm still starved.. I've been cricket gaming since 1996 and haven't encountered anything nearly as enjoyable as any other genre of game I've played. IC10 comes the closest, but only if you reduce catching ability so spinners don't take so many wickets. You are right, I should have stuck with that.

I really hope DBC14 raises the bar and I have faith that it will, but until then we are in soviet Russia driving around in our shitty cars because Mercedes haven't had a look in yet.

 

[ChinamanSpin]

Until I have it spun up in my drive and I'm bowling and the opposition are 326/7 after day one of a test match

I think that's a pretty realistic score after one over on Ashes...

 

[Biggs]

I probably got on a bit of a rant but I did try to warn everyone of the "history" of these developers in my early days on here I think....

Many people did, the problem was they seemed absolutely genuine right from the start. Chief alone was doing and saying the right things... I have to believe the whole thing started off with good intentions and that wasn't a ruse from the start. I also don't think getting people from PC.net involved wasn't genuine outreach either...

Something went totally wrong along the way and they were absolutely not upfront about that at all and we deserve to know when things did go wrong and why we led to believe everything was fine. So much of what was discussed and suggested by community members and heralded at the Lords event as "great input" is either not in the game, not considered for the game or was never implemented in the first place.

I mean, I for one was told there would be stump cam. Where is it? Little things like that, which are SO EASY to implement that we were told would be included, going back through the "ask chief" thread is full of deception and lies it's quite astounding. It's like they forgot all this would be recorded for the future.

The upshot is, they will collectively never be able to show their faces here ever again and I can't see any of them making a cricket title again. So this is the last time we get taken for a ride by these assholes.

Nobody is buying any cricket (or sport) related product from the "Studio that brought you Ashes 2013"

 

[Internomad]

I just remembered who that guy is... he's "I don't read threads guy"





It's your own fault if you don't read the very forum you're posting in, then come by complaining about a game you purchased when there's plenty of information at your disposal from a number of members regarding the game.

Nobody knew the game was THIS terrible. But we knew it was bad. No-one could possibly have predicted it would get a botched release on Steam or pulled from there after 72 hours, Facebook deleted etc. But when you don't read the forum you're a member of deliberately because you can't be bothered, you're absolutely at fault for making a stupid decision to buy the game. Nobody is going to hold your hand through this.

"Grown men" take responsibility.

Lol, you really do make far too many assumptions. You have no knowledge of me at all, no idea of the many responsibilities I have taken in my life and am still taking now. You live in your own little world on this forum thinking you know everything about everyone, when you know nothing at all.

This forum is so insignificant in the great scheme of things, I couldn't care less what gets posted here nor can I be bothered to spend hours going through hundreds of post when I have far more important things to do, like caring for my Mother who has Alzheimer's.

But just to give you a little insight to the person you are trying, but failing to belittle, I am a former British soldier having served 14 years in an Infantry Regiment. I was in charge of a section of men in various hostile areas of the world, responsible for their safety and their actions in any and all situations. I was also a Mortar Fire Controller, responsible for identifying targets, making sure that the details I sent to the Mortar line were 100% accurate so as the rounds did not come down on our own troops.

So as you can see, I know all about responsibility, I don't need someone like you to tell me to take responsibility.

 

[Biggs]

I don't care. You're wrong. Read the forum and advice from people before buying a product.

 

[ChinamanSpin]

This forum is so insignificant in the great scheme of things, I couldn't care less what gets posted here nor can I be bothered to spend hours going through hundreds of post when I have far more important things to do, like caring for my Mother who has Alzheimer's.

To be fair, you did only need to be on this forum for about a minute to realise that the game wasn't going to be any good.

 

[BigAntStudios]

Many people did, the problem was they seemed absolutely genuine right from the start. Chief alone was doing and saying the right things... I have to believe the whole thing started off with good intentions and that wasn't a ruse from the start. I also don't think getting people from PC.net involved wasn't genuine outreach either...

Something went totally wrong along the way and they were absolutely not upfront about that at all and we deserve to know when things did go wrong and why we led to believe everything was fine. So much of what was discussed and suggested by community members and heralded at the Lords event as "great input" is either not in the game, not considered for the game or was never implemented in the first place.

I mean, I for one was told there would be stump cam. Where is it?

The upshot is, they will collectively never be able to show their faces here ever again and I can't see any of them making a cricket title again. So this is the last time we get taken for a ride by these assholes.

Nobody is buying any cricket (or sport) related product from the "Studio that brought you Ashes 2013"

So if June is the original release date then they knew they were in deep trouble by January 2013 and would not be making a game worth having.

Also consider they took six months from June to give us this tripe in late November.

One more time because I think it's so apt.

 

[Frostyvegi]

Can we all stop this stupid bickering.. it's like we're forgetting who is the common enemy.

Fact of the matter is, Biggs is right (although he's as blunt as a big, smelly block of mud). We, as consumers, need to be smart with our money and our purchases. Companies that produce goods mainly see the #1 goal of their job is to make money, plain and simple. If you avoid them meeting their goal when they are doing things you don't agree with, then you make the biggest statement you possibly can. If you were unable to wait a day or two for someone else to 'take the bullet' and give a few reviews and vidoes like the majority out there, then yes, you are contributing to the problem. A boycott is only successful if 99% of the population decide not to buy.

 

[blockerdave]

Totally and then you factor in all this "DLC" talk... Duckworth Lewis information... "Turning things on"... they KNEW at that point it was a mess. They had to. That's the period of time when a good majority of us started to smell a rat...

they must have known very early on, I would go as far as to say within a few weeks of starting development, they were on the wrong track.

something fishy went on there... if I was 505 I would be conducting one hell of an audit. don't know what the budget was (after licenses) but I don't see it in that game, I really don't.

 

[Biggs]

Put it this way; I don't believe the game was in development for as long as Jamie said it was. I like the guy, but I think he lied right up front. Nothing that has been in development for "a while" or whatever the quote was looks as bad as this. (I think he said 2 out of 3 cycles or something, a year and half or something I can't remember the specific quote)

EDIT:

Budget-wise I've heard a few numbers thrown around and a source tells me there was plenty of money available. Quite possibly a lot more than what BigAnt have at their disposal when you factor in the cost of licenses.

 

[barmyarmy]

That is enough.

 

[BigAntStudios]

Excluding licenses they had waaaaayyyy more $ than ourselves, difference is we spent the money on the game. Never worked with the same publisher twice.... Hmmm

 

[Crossy333]

What I want to know is, how in 2013 does a studio whose entire existence is to make video games, creating something like AC13?

What happens for a development to be so fundamentally bad?

It just does not compute for me...

 

[Biggs]

Excluding licenses they had waaaaayyyy more $ than ourselves, difference is we spent the money on the game. Never worked with the same publisher twice.... Hmmm

We'll never know half the stuff that went down, but even as a lay-person I can tell the money did NOT going into the product.