Twenty20 Revamp getting even closer

[evertonfan]

You should know by now that my opinion is always the correct one.

 

[Kev]

What I wonder is how exactly do they expect a slightly different competition to raise much more TV revenue than it does now?

 

[Highlander999]

Gah, what's the point in all this shite. Just leave it as it is. The current English T20 is miles more exciting than the IPL and it probably always will be.

110% correct The 20/20 Final last year was soooo damn exciting. I remember watching the highlights knowing who had won and still feeling nervous for Kent

 

[Cricketman]

IPL > English T20.

 

[Animator!]

I don't see why we're doing this. We'll never attract the crowds to bring in the same money as the IPL, which is essentially the aim, financial benefit. Leave our Twenty/20 competition alone, it was the very first, and since it's begining has always been the best. Unless the IPL drastically has some fantastic games, then I'd say the usual English domestic 20/20 schedule is more exciting.

 

[vaibhav mehta]

There You go,Its working preety good.
England ponders six-region option

f England is to create a viable Twenty20 competition to rival the Indian Premier League, then the 18 first-class counties are going to have to bite the bullet and merge into six regional sides. That is the message from Sean Morris, the new chief executive of the Professional Cricketers' Association, who believes that without adaptation, English cricket faces being second-best to India for evermore.

"This is a great opportunity for English cricket, an unbelievable chance for England to reassert itself," Morris told The Guardian. "I just hope we take it. India, a big competitor, has got first to the market. Considering that we invented Twenty20, they should not have got there first. It is important that we act quickly."

Full Story.

 

[vaibhav mehta]

Well ECB is the most worried board now.

35% of England players consider retiring to play in IPL

ICL and IPL tempt England players

Eighteen percent of first-class cricketers in England would risk incurring a year-long county ban by the ECB to play in the next Indian Cricket League (ICL), and 35% would consider retiring from international cricket prematurely, according to a survey conducted by the Professional Cricketers' Association (PCA).

The report canvassed the anonymous opinions of 334 players, including all the current England squad, providing "a comprehensive picture of the current cricketing landscape with particular reference to the Indian cricket leagues, the opportunity they offer and their potential threat to the domestic game."

Full Story.

 

[lancashire666]

im fairly certain that the 35% who would consider retireing from international cricket are players who arnt going to get a chance at international cricket, players like butcher or luke sutton for example, i highly doubt any current international players, or young players would at this time retire from international cricket for the IPL

 

[King Pietersen]

Exactly, if any members of the test side have admitted to that then they should be kicked out. I'm certain that players like Pietersen, Collingwood, Vaughan, Flintoff etc would not end their international career to play in a Mickey-Mouse Twenty20 tournament. I'd also be gutted if our Twenty20 cup was changed, ours is the original and the best, leave it as it is. I'm bored of Twenty20 already, 50 over and test match cricket is far better, much more interesting, generally of a higher standard, you see classy innings in an ODi not slogging. I really hope that Twenty20 cricket doesn't become the popular event that Allan Stanford wants it to become.

 

[smssia0112]

Stanford wants to be the next Packer, he finally realised that he wasn't going to get the support required in the West Indies, so he moves on to England.

The whole idea to turn the whole world into franchised premier leagues (England, Pakistan and Australia all want their own) is just ridiculous. The thing that is helping the IPL is its novelty factor. If the whole world does it it will just end up with FC and OD cricket being pushed aside and domestic cricket being shown the door in preference for a franchise system.

This in turn will destroy young players' chances of making their international sides because they aren't playing in the big tournaments, the standard of international cricket will wane due to less players being interested in playing for their countries, and eventually it will just be the franchises.

Big whoop...

 

[SciD]

Bowlers in IPL are punished because the pitches and weather are opposite to England. No help for bowlers and no help in air or off pitch.

ICL is Indias answer to what English T20 scores are. So IPL>English T20>ICL

If you are so confident of English standard then we will see in Champions Trophy. I bet Australian and Indian teams will be in final easily.

 

[vaibhav mehta]

I think its simplty because of Conditions and Pitches.
In England Zaheer can swing the ball at any day at any time,whereas in India under 45 degree with Humidity of 76% you will be dead as Bowler.(Except Lee)
You can't say that Bowling is not of good Standard,but Conditions over India never allows Bowler to be Dominant.

 

[King Pietersen]

Bowlers in IPL are punished because the pitches and weather are opposite to England. No help for bowlers and no help in air or off pitch.

ICL is Indias answer to what English T20 scores are. So IPL>English T20>ICL

If you are so confident of English standard then we will see in Champions Trophy. I bet Australian and Indian teams will be in final easily.

You've got the wrong end of the stick here, i'm not saying that the players in England are better, but the actual competition is of far better substance and of much higher quality. The fact that the IPL is completely dominated by batsmen makes it boring, to me anyway, obviously the Indians have a big preference for the batsmen. The standard of bowling could have been better though, as proven by the fact that certain players have performed well, like Lee last night, Warne the other day, showing that the pitches aren't as batsman friendly as you make out.

The fact of the matter is, the bowling hasn't been good enough, bowlers have been bowling the wrong lengths, not mixing their pace, not mixing their line, not throwing in all the variations. The English game can actually help a bowler, they are encouraged to learn variations, such as slower balls, bouncers, cutters, as they work in the format. The bowlers in this tournament just aren't doing that, and the result is that the batsmen come out on top by guessing the length and slogging. It's got nothing on the English Twenty20 cup, and you're just being dillusional if you believe otherwise. I think that the IPL proves that throwing money at the game doesn't always bring good cricket.

 

[sohum]

T20 is of poor standard, just because it's a batsman friendly game doesn't mean that the bowlers should be of poor standard. The t20 cup in England is a much more even contest, as proven by the rarity of hundreds, we've already seen hundreds from McCullum, Hussey, Symonds and Sehwag (i think, correct me if i'm wrong), which shows that the quality of bowling just hasn't been there. Bowlers in the British T20 Cup have proven themselves by bowling the right lengths and geting their variations in, something not done in India. Even t20 should be an even contest between batsman and bowler, if that is taken away then the game is pointless and cricket will lose its prestige and what I love about the game, and the result would be a contest between countries over who can hit the ball the furthest. The English twenty20 competition is exciting and adds to the game, the IPL is a Mickey-Mouse tournament thats throwing money at the game, and could potentially ruin the game. I'm not a fan.

You're comparing the quality of successful international batsmen to trundling English country cricketers with no international future as evidence for your argument that the bowling isn't good in the IPL? Poor.

Not to mention that the English players have had 4-5 years of experience playing Twenty20. Do you think they started throwing in all the variations in the first season itself? This is obviously a new experience for most of the Indian players, who have played a maximum of 2 Twenty20 seasons before this. You're just being unfair. Do you think that if the English players were playing the IPL, the quality would be drastically improved? I doubt it.

 

[SciD]

Dareen Maddy and Vikram Solanki the two of biggest superstar in English T20 games were superflops in ICL.

Also Warne, McGrath, Asif, Lee, Ishant, Zaheer, Irfan, Chawla, Gul, Afridi etc dont make for poor bowling. But except McGrath all have been belted.

Michael Hussey has played in County T20 but I doubt he scored at strike rate of above 200 for a big knock there.