Best Post 60's Batting Line-up

[King Pietersen]

I've just been watching the 1993 Ashes on ESPN Classic and Australia's batting line-up made me wonder who has had the best batting line-up since 1960. I don't have a decent knowledge of cricket pre-1960, so what international side do you feel has had the best ever line-up ?

I think the 1993 Australian line-up of Mark Taylor, Michael Slater, David Boon, Mark Waugh, Allan Border and Steve Waugh is one of the greatest of all time. What are the other main options do you feel ? The great West Indians of Lloyd, Grennidge, Richards, Haynes and others ? I'm going to go for the 93 Aussies. Your view ?

 

[vaibhav mehta]

Don't know about 60s though in laste 70s it must be great WI side,Consist of Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, Larry Gomes, Viv Richards, Alvin Kallicharan, Clive Lloyd, Jeff Dujon, Malcolm Marshall.

 

[Skater]

1970s West Indies.

 

[Dare]

id have to go with the 84 West Indies side that toured Australia

GG
Haynes
Richie Richardson
Viv
Larry Gomes
Loyd
Dujon
Marshall

Marshall was the closest thing to a all-rounder during that time, and probably the best one for WI after Sobers. Only sort of weak link is Gomes but he wasn't all that bad.

 

[prarara]

Dare that's a very good lineup. I'm a big fan of the Windies side from the 80s!

 

[Cricketman]

India at any point in time


Seriously - West Indies of the 80's - Probably the second best team of all time, second only to Bradman's invincibles.

The Australian team of the late 90's and the early millennium was fantastic as well.

 

[angryangy]

The Windies' batting was probably at it's best in the 1950s, the time of the Three Ws, Frank Worrell, Everton Weekes and Clyde Walcott. It was a period in which they also featured George Headley and saw the debuts of future stars in Sobers and Kanhai. If you look at the Windies of the 70s and later, they had a long list of very good batsmen, but after Sobers, there was really only Viv Richards who averaged over 50. In fact Kanhai and Lloyd are the only other two I can think of to average over 45 from that era. It's easy to understand why the later teams were more successful in spite of this, though.

In terms of a virtually static lineup, I would have to say Australia 2001-2004
Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Waugh
Lehmann
Gilchrist

From the point of Slater's deposition at the end of the Ashes to Waugh's retirement against India, not a lot changed in this batting lineup. The top order players, who went on to call themselves 'The Engine Room' scored about 30 centuries between them in this period. If the attack succeeded to remove them, they still had to deal with the grit of Waugh and Martyn and the spinners would find few easy pickings against Lehmann or Gilchrist.

 

[King Pietersen]

Umm, it's a decent side, but if you look at the names in the 1993 side they're all fantastic players, and I struggle to see a weakness at all:

Mark Taylor
Michael Slater
David Boon
Mark Waugh
Allan Border
Steve Waugh

The only side that I feel competes with it is the Windie's side of the 70's. Lloyd and Richards are 2 of the greats of the game, especially Viv.

 

[Dare]

The Windies' batting was probably at it's best in the 1950s, the time of the Three Ws, Frank Worrell, Everton Weekes and Clyde Walcott. It was a period in which they also featured George Headley and saw the debuts of future stars in Sobers and Kanhai. If you look at the Windies of the 70s and later, they had a long list of very good batsmen, but after Sobers, there was really only Viv Richards who averaged over 50. In fact Kanhai and Lloyd are the only other two I can think of to average over 45 from that era. It's easy to understand why the later teams were more successful in spite of this, though.

In terms of a virtually static lineup, I would have to say Australia 2001-2004
Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Waugh
Lehmann
Gilchrist

From the point of Slater's deposition at the end of the Ashes to Waugh's retirement against India, not a lot changed in this batting lineup. The top order players, who went on to call themselves 'The Engine Room' scored about 30 centuries between them in this period. If the attack succeeded to remove them, they still had to deal with the grit of Waugh and Martyn and the spinners would find few easy pickings against Lehmann or Gilchrist.

Yea the 1950s windies was a strong lineup with the 3W's, Headley and Kanhai and the emerging Sobers. I guess the only knock against that batting side was the lack of consistent openers. Once Stollmeyer and Rae retired in the early 50s there wasn't a solid opening pair like GG and Haynes were.

Rae
Stollmeyer
Headley
Weekes
Worrell
Walcott
Kanhai

not a bad middle order at all eh

 

[angryangy]

Umm, it's a decent side, but if you look at the names in the 1991 side they're all fantastic players, and I struggle to see a weakness at all:

Mark Taylor
Michael Slater
David Boon
Mark Waugh
Allan Border
Steve Waugh

The only side that I feel competes with it is the Windie's side of the 70's. Lloyd and Richards are 2 of the greats of the game, especially Viv.

Michael Slater's career didn't start until 1993. Plus, 1991 was the year Mark Waugh made the side... at the expense of Steve Waugh. The real batting order of the time was more like
Taylor
Marsh
Boon
M Waugh
Jones
Border
Matthews
Healy

They were all good, but Border's career stands enormous among them. The length of the lineup is somewhat negated by Marsh's dour opening and Healy's complete lack of batting skill for the first 5 years of his career. I don't know that it was any better a batting lineup than Chappell era Australia and more recent Australians have been far more successful.

 

[arkapd]

1984 West Indies batting lineup is the most dangerous for me.

 

[King Pietersen]

Michael Slater's career didn't start until 1993. Plus, 1991 was the year Mark Waugh made the side... at the expense of Steve Waugh. The real batting order of the time was more like
Taylor
Marsh
Boon
M Waugh
Jones
Border
Matthews
Healy

They were all good, but Border's career stands enormous among them. The length of the lineup is somewhat negated by Marsh's dour opening and Healy's complete lack of batting skill for the first 5 years of his career. I don't know that it was any better a batting lineup than Chappell era Australia and more recent Australians have been far more successful.

Yes, that was my mistake, i actually meant the 1993 side. The one that played in the following test:

http://content-www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63609.html

I think that's an awesome batting line-up, full of classy run getters, and including players with fantastic stats in Border, Boon, Steve Waugh, Mark Waugh and Mark Taylor, such a wealth of batting. Fantastic side imo.

 

[aussie_ben91]

What about...

Justin Langer
Matthew Hayden
Ricky Ponting
Mark Waugh
Steve Waugh
Damien Martyn
Adam Gilchrist

Seems like a much better batting lineup then your one from 1993.

Ashes 2001, 5th Test: http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/63940.html

 

[angryangy]

Yeah, I really don't think Taylor and Slater compares to Hayden and Langer, while Ponting is the best no. 3 we've had since the war. And, it has Gilchrist, who is still twice the batsman Healy was.