IPL IPL Criticisms

[SaiSrini]

One criticism with the new edition is the display of a video AD inbetween overs right in the middle of the stadium. What the heck is this? For the TV viewer, the AD is shown which is played on the giant screen. Does it mean that the play doesnt go while the AD is played? Someone said about this nuisance in another IPL thread too.

I like the support of initiatives such as 'Green movement's, 'Education for all' (which is actually spearheaded by Nita Ambani, owner of Mumbai Indians). The "Education of All' is my favorite one because when platforms like the IPL spread this awareness, it has a wonderful chance to reach the right people and a change has a great chance of happening.

 

[SciD]

Strategic time out should be optional. I don't think its bad idea as if I had been Sachin I would have taken time out much earlier in game when Pathan was starting to branch out.

I think in next 4-5 years all gimmicks which annoy audience will be shunned down as if the audience do not turn up they will end up loosing its base. Already see improvement in it with less DLFers, Cheerleaders etc.

I think with addition of more teams we might see two zones competing in respective matches and then semi finals team get decided from these games. It will shorten the tournament in number of games wise.

Another problem I see is timings of this tournament as this time is best time to play cricket in India as heat has not set in and some places in north like Delhi, Mohali and Dharamshala still has cool evenings keeping players happy. But this means we will be having more International games in India during winter months when light is issue and pitches also tend to just die after 3 days of test cricket.

One criticism with the new edition is the display of a video AD inbetween overs right in the middle of the stadium. What the heck is this? For the TV viewer, the AD is shown which is played on the giant screen. Does it mean that the play doesnt go while the AD is played? Someone said about this nuisance in another IPL thread too.

Played when fast bowler is getting back to mark. Once each innings and it hardly disrupts game as bowler is going back to his mark.

 

[rahuldravidfan]

Pros-

1. Huge Exposure to Indian talent and the U19s with a "ONE U19 player in the Playing 11 compulsorily" rule.
2. Exciting Stage for International talent to showcase their skills.
3. Great playground for breeding new ideas and the Indian public seems hooked to it.
4. Generates a lot of moolah for the Board & the country.
5. Players are payed twice or thrice the amount for 7 weeks than what they would make playing for their country.
6. Most have issues with IPL, but yet they watch it. This is a proxy victory for the IPL.
7. Reaching out to new countries every year through a new form of cricket called "cricketainment".
8. Tie-up with Youtube is a great way at reaching out to the working pro, who form a lucrative untapped viewer-base.
9. Unites players across nationalities and forms DREAM-TEAMS.
10. Massive wake-up call to cricket boards around the world & the best thing to happen to (Indian) cricket.

Cons-

1. Ad-hungry MAX network (although its been better this yr).
2. Some Stupid commentators.
3. Overbranding.
4. Lack of a darn window (its not exactly the IPL's lookout though as the ICC has to take the call).
5. Not the IPL's fault but the players are retiring from longer formats to sustain themselves in the lucrative short form (give it a window).
6. On a lighter note, not all cheerleaders are as hot as DC's.

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The "4 international player restriction" rule is ridiculous, the IPL should have never been allowed to be created with such a rule & biased towards the Indian audience.

Its an Indian league, you know :sarcasm

Since the IPL potentially can not only cause player burn-out in 5-10 years. But its threatening the future of test cricket.

Give it a darn window and ask the IPL to fit all the matches in it, let there be 8 teams or 18.

One criticism with the new edition is the display of a video AD inbetween overs right in the middle of the stadium. What the heck is this? For the TV viewer, the AD is shown which is played on the giant screen. Does it mean that the play doesnt go while the AD is played? Someone said about this nuisance in another IPL thread too.

Whosoever came up with this idea is a sick, greedy genius. Agreed, its a nuisance.

But hey, it comes just once in 2 overs (yes, I've been counting) and it isn't that bad

 

[pcfan123]

Its pretty unprofessional the way the stats guy is yelling in the background of the commentary.

 

[Owzat]

The one big factor in the TV coverage I've seen is self promotion, adverts, too many interviews and frankly the cricket wasn't as entertaining as T20 fans would have you believe. I had opportunity to channel chop while it was on, I only watched as much as I did because the rugby was boring and there was FA on besides.

Can't say the presentation team was that good, the woman presenter didn't seem to know how to present, leaving the "pundits" wondering if she'd asked a question and it was just godawfully unnatural.

Still at least Preity Zinti or whatever her name was was worth tuning in for :banana2 just a shame she could have worn a cheerleader outfit and done a turn. I find it ironic it is IPL and yet the cheerleaders were all white. While the ITV4 team tried to make out like recovery was possible, the side batting first (Preity's side?) were in disarray and didn't recover from their poor start and the big names let the lot down. Fielding was nothing special, catching not much better and the "big hitting" was a bit of a let down. I was expecting totals of 180-200 in this high profile event, yet neither of the games I've seen so far got that close. A lot of swings and misses, if that is IPL then T20 fans are welcome to it. The slightly longer 50 over version has a lot more to it and the tactics that Sobers spoke of are virtually non-existent in T20. Cricket is supposed to be a contest between bat and ball, these days it is a contest between bat and bat

 

[Params7]

How about Pros: cheerleaders?

They aren't cheerleaders, they're hired dancers. Cheerleaders would be if they got girls from the cities that are playing.

 

[Howsie]

Pros-
Its an Indian league, you know :sarcasm

It sure is, thus it doesn't deserve a window.

 

[Params7]

I'd much rather the competition if it wasn't an Indian domestic one....Defo need more international cricketers in sides, otherwise the IPL is just stealing them away from their homes and benching them for entire tournaments ala Andrew McDonald, Paul Collingwood, etc.

Shorten it down to 7 matches per team, semis and a final. That's just 31 games, and it can be finished in about 3 weeks.

I like the concept of the Champions League, but to have both, the IPL really needs to be shortened.

In Lalit Modi's mind (he tweeted about it a couple of days ago) - IPL = Just as big as NFL.

You know what's in his mind for the IPL...he's going to keep on feeding it. +2 Teams next year, 90 games. And if you think he's just going to stop after that...:laugh

Overdoing T20 is a good topic though. Its a new market, a big one but it WILL reach its oversaturation one day. The way Modi is trying to expand it, its on a downard parabolic path where it will reach its high point and then..take a U-Turn down south. That'll be the day when Modi sells the IPL. Either that or by some miracle someone stops him and keeps T20 dosage in check.

 

[Gurjot95]

Played when fast bowler is getting back to mark. Once each innings and it hardly disrupts game as bowler is going back to his mark.

I am pretty sure, it is displayed many times in 1 innings.

 

[SciD]

I am pretty sure, it is displayed many times in 1 innings.

I have not watched the tournament for most part. Saw royals chase yesterday and was played once only and saw it played once in King XI match which you know many Kings XI fans would not have watched.

 

[War]

It sure is, thus it doesn't deserve a window.

Exactly. Unless it was a international league it doesn't deserve a window. I see no reason why if the IPL was a premier annual international T20 tournament. Why as i've heard Indian fans saying, the young Indian talent wouldn't get proper exposure & domestic players wouldn't learn from internationaal stars. Since the argument has usually been that given India's weak FC system - these Indian players rubbing shoulders with the international players would toughen them for when they eventualy get picked for India.

That 4 international player rule is ridiculous. I'm 100% certain as i've mentioned before if the ICC was proper governing body that they would have never allowed the IPL to be created with such a rule.

 

[manee]

My only issues came with the gimmicks, and this year most of them appear to have been binned. There's a reduced break in the innings, there's still a break, but it's nowhere near as bad as the dire 10 minute break of last year; I've only heard 1 mention of a DLF Maximum or a Citi Moment of Success, and both came from Ravi Shastri. It's been far more reliant on the standard of cricket and not gimmicks this year, been much more enjoyable.

The strategy break really is annoying. I think that the bowling or batting team should have an option to take one, but the way it is enforced within a certain period, with it being mandatory during that period, just doesn't work. The DLF Maximum and Citi Moment of Success have not been nearly as frequent this year but they don't really get to me as much as they do to others.

Cons

4 overseas players rule: A great deal of the hype and buzz around the IPL is due to the overseas players. The allure of so many great international players playing together in one team is huge. However, the quality of the league is sacrificed to a great extent with some rather mediocre players in the playing XI. I feel a 5 player overseas rule would be much more fitting as it basically sifts through the garbage for you and makes for some much more exciting contests without some pretty substandard Indian domestic players that are terrible even outside the IPL.

Nah, we do want to find some domestic talent and I think that seven Indians is the minimum requirement in order to do this.

[Interrupting the international schedule: This is quite a problem as we've seen in the past with players like Gayle and Sarwan almost opting out of playing international cricket to play in the IPL. It also creates headaches for national selectors as they can't really stop their players from leaving when there is so much money that they aren't willing or able to offer. The possibility of injuries must also be a highly worrying aspect of the IPL for selectors.

I struggle to believe that the IPL has not at least been successful in streamlining the international schedule. ODIs should really be cut down as they should look to build an international schedule around the T20 tournaments which are in extremely high demand for international players all over the world. A window for the IPL and any other T20 tournament of similar magnitude seems obvious to me, but others seem to disagree due to the symbolism of it all.

[Salary Cap: As I understand, players are now only allowed to earn a maximum of $750,000 with any additional money received from the bid going to the IPL? Quite unfair imo.

A bit weird, but I guess we do not want young players earning so much money, that their game goes out of the window. The idea of extra money to the IPL rather than the player choosing, seems weird to me though, I must say.

Number of matches: It starts off great but interest really wanes as the tournament progresses. It just drags on and with 8 teams, it's quite excruciating at times. This is being made worse with 2 more teams being introduced. This problem also ties into interfering with the international schedule.

Yes. Have each team play each other once and move on to semi finals and playoffs after that.

Players retiring: This is a huge issue although it can be argued that this is not really the fault of the IPL. Players like Brett Lee and Andrew Flintoff really weren't going to be playing much more test cricket anyways with all those injuries. That isn't because of the IPL. One feels that that they would have had to make that tough decision with or without the IPL. However, there is the threat that players may start to retire at an earlier age in order to preserve themselves for the shorter formats and earn some money in the last few years of their careers.

Lee and Flintoff's were little to do with the IPL, imo - I think this is a non issue until top players start retiring early for the IPL.

Strategic Timeouts: People watch T20 games because they are fast and flow really well. This just breaks the flow for the spectators and the momentum for the players.

Yep, they really suck. Have one short one, or make them optional rather than mandatory.

I like the support of initiatives such as 'Green movement's, 'Education for all' (which is actually spearheaded by Nita Ambani, owner of Mumbai Indians). The "Education of All' is my favorite one because when platforms like the IPL spread this awareness, it has a wonderful chance to reach the right people and a change has a great chance of happening.

Hmmm. Did seem a bit corny to hear Shastri give us our "green tip" for the day, which is to "use public transport", if anyone is interested.

Its pretty unprofessional the way the stats guy is yelling in the background of the commentary.

Indeed. Production values are zero in the IPL. Does amuse me sometimes though, I must say. The Indian Premier League - ITV Sport break during overs on the ITV4 coverage also peeves me off, but it would seem that this is similar all over. However, hearing coughing over the top of this sometimes, really was abysmal.

 

[pcfan123]

This is more a of a criticism of Twenty20 than IPL but this about sums it up

2.4


Vaas to Raina, OUT


SK Raina c †Gilchrist b Vaas 6 (3b 0x4 1x6) SR: 200.00

2.3


Vaas to Raina, SIX, takes no time in setting himself up, not a bad ball at all but he had made his mind up, swinging it hard over midwicket and into the stands

Raina to face

The modern innings :laugh

 

[War]

Nah, we do want to find some domestic talent and I think that seven Indians is the minimum requirement in order to do this.

I dont see the sense in this to be honest. How is stuffing the various teams with 7 local players just for the sake of it via the rule restriction (especially when some are woefully crap) going to find domestic/local talent?.

If the local players young or old are good enough to start in the final XI - they should play. Surely before they actually pick the teams to play via watching the local players play in the nets its would be obvious to see who is quality & who is crap.

For example look at Manish Panday. I dont see why if there was no "4 international player" restriction why he could not have been discovered.

I struggle to believe that the IPL has not at least been successful in streamlining the international schedule. ODIs should really be cut down as they should look to build an international schedule around the T20 tournaments which are in extremely high demand for international players all over the world. A window for the IPL and any other T20 tournament of similar magnitude seems obvious to me, but others seem to disagree due to the symbolism of it all.

I agree ODIs should be cut down, especially 7 match ODI series. Those really are useless (unless its a preparation for a world-cup as Australia are doing for the 2010/11 season). The perfect solution would for all series to consistent of a minium 3 tests, 3 ODI's & 3 T20s - expect of the Ashes & ENG vs SA would be a 5/4 test series.

But i dont agree that an international schedule should be built around T20 tournaments at all. The amount of T20s needs to come under strict control so as to avoid overkill & the preservation of test cricket:

- The IPL can stay but needs revamping & restructuing.

- The Champions League is also very good. But that needs restructing too

- Plus you will have the T20 World Cup every two years

You dont need any more T20 international tournaments than this.
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[SaiSrini]

One criticism for me (about IPL in general) is that it is played during the best months of cricket in India (i.e. March, April, May). Indian pitches are at their best during this season and when the winter season sets in, the dew and the over-used pitches are not as lively and the international matches are affected. I know the IPL wants to cater during the holiday season in India, but priority should be given to international games and the IPL should be played in June-July. IPL at anytime will get the TV viewers and also in June, the schools start and so parents of children will not be too concerned that their kids are not focusing on their exams coming up.