Air Terror Bid Foiled in England

The terrorists (this is assuming they are Muslims as the report you quoted didnt say) believe they are doing the right thing and that any punishment that is given is worth it if they are doing God's will.
 
Listen: It has been stated many times that they are British born pakistanis...not muslims. To credit a religion (or race or whhatever) to these people is a disgrace to all the muslims on this board.
 
There is no real point in the deterrent being death as most of the people who plan and carry out these types of attack are prepared to die for their cause anyway.
 
True.

I heard on the news that the terrorist's plan was to have 10 planes disappear somewhat as they would be blown up all at the same time above the ocean between USA and UK.
 
If those planes were all packed.

That's about 3,000 lives saved, well done MI5 and the MET and other police forces.
 
manee said:
Listen: It has been stated many times that they are British born pakistanis...not muslims. To credit a religion (or race or whhatever) to these people is a disgrace to all the muslims on this board.

Usually it is quoted as them being Muslims. I know that the religion has no effect on it, I've just spend half an hour aruging with someone who believes this:

Do you see thousands of Muslims on the street and being televised worldwide villfying Al-Qaeda and like minded terrorist organisations and sending the message to the Muslim Community Worldwide that these people are a disease to their faith???..........No you don't.
I've been in correspondence with the Muslim Council of Britain suggesting that they could organise such a march/protest to send out a message to the world,but they're not interested.It would relieve the tension and any hostility allegedly directed at British Muslims immediately and at the same time send a message to fellow Muslims not to commit atrocities.
Why are they so reluctant to alienate the terrorists???

I realise that on this board more than any other it's going to be a bit more sensitive.
 
I travelled from Heathrow 3 days back! My family and I are actually quite relieved that we weren't caught up in all this drama. Anyway, it's good that the plot was prevented. I hope the police have got it right and have actually stopped a real plot instead of wasting their time relying on false intelligence!
 
Thats terrible but Thank God that it foiled I saw in the news today and now a days we are not at all safe ........ no one knows what will happen the next moment .
 
So, the new terror alert level thing was launched last week. Yesterday John Reid, the home secratary gives a speech saying how freedoms may have to be restricted in the fight against terrorism. Today, there's a foiled terror attack, giving us an oppurtunity to use the new terror alert level thing. What a coincidence.
 
andrew_nixon said:
So, the new terror alert level thing was launched last week. Yesterday John Reid, the home secratary gives a speech saying how freedoms may have to be restricted in the fight against terrorism. Today, there's a foiled terror attack, giving us an oppurtunity to use the new terror alert level thing. What a coincidence.

Weren't you the guy who always frowned heavily on conspiracy theories ?
 
Sureshot said:
Nah, it could make them martyrs, nor should the death penalty be in a civilized country.

Put them in solitary confinement till their ticker stops tocking.

It's funny, people keep saying this thing about Martyrs.

Whatever happens there will always be people to take over from them. All of there human rights (if there found guilty) should be removed and they should be put in a prison and allowed to be beaten by the prisoners (like rapists reportedly are...etc). I'm in favour of executions (if proven beond doubt for hanus crimes) i.e. plotting to blow up a plane or killing a police officer.
 
Ritwik said:
Weren't you the guy who always frowned heavily on conspiracy theories ?
True, but there is an element of "the boy who cried wolf" over all these foiled terrorist attacks. There's been so many of them, and they often happen just after the government announces some new anti-terrorism policy. This one does actually seem real, but I'm getting a little puzzled about why they find out about things like this, but not about things like 7/7, 9/11, etc....

We used to be told that we shouldn't let terrorists force us to change our way of life, now we're being told that we must change our way of life as part of the fight against terrorism. We shouldn't let the government continue to erode our freedoms in this fight, or we risk drifting to a quasi-facist state.

themuel1 said:
Whatever happens there will always be people to take over from them. All of there human rights (if there found guilty) should be removed and they should be put in a prison and allowed to be beaten by the prisoners (like rapists reportedly are...etc). I'm in favour of executions (if proven beond doubt for hanus crimes) i.e. plotting to blow up a plane or killing a police officer.
And doing that would make us as bad as the terrorists.
 
andrew_nixon said:
True, but there is an element of "the boy who cried wolf" over all these foiled terrorist attacks. There's been so many of them, and they often happen just after the government announces some new anti-terrorism policy. This one does actually seem real, but I'm getting a little puzzled about why they find out about things like this, but not about things like 7/7, 9/11, etc....

We used to be told that we shouldn't let terrorists force us to change our way of life, now we're being told that we must change our way of life as part of the fight against terrorism. We shouldn't let the government continue to erode our freedoms in this fight, or we risk drifting to a quasi-facist state.

9/11 - Wasn't that said to be known about before the event? Also, were they looking as hard? Maybe they just got lucky this time?
 
Holy s**** one of the guys who got arrested lives 2 streets away from me
 
Adarsh said:
I travelled from Heathrow 3 days back! My family and I are actually quite relieved that we weren't caught up in all this drama. Anyway, it's good that the plot was prevented. I hope the police have got it right and have actually stopped a real plot instead of wasting their time relying on false intelligence!

I arrived back today, I am soooo lucky. We got on the plane in Shanghai at 6:50 GMT, so we were in the air for all the fracas, and because we were a 12 hour flight, we couldn't be diverted or something like that. Scared the living s*** out of me when I heard about it, 10 planes. I'm normally very confident on planes, but after spending 12 hours on one and hearing something like that...

In fact, it worked to our advantage as there was nothing going out of Heathrow, so we were in fact 5 mins ahead of schedule, which anyone with any experience of Heathrow will know is an absolute rarity. Feel sorry for all those poor people trying to get on a flight. No hand luggage allowed, nothing to do! Apparently Virgin were accepting boarding tickets from other airlines who completely locked down and cancelled all flights, so well done to them.

afridi25 said:
Holy s**** one of the guys who got arrested lives 2 streets away from me

Jesus, that must be scary.
 

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