Championship Manager 5 vs Football Manager 2005

Which game is better


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gold639

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Well,now that both the games have been released,which one do you think is better?

In my opinion,CM 5 just sucks.One of the worst management games I have come across.The match engine is shocking.The interface is shocking.The game has so many bugs.The only plus point about the game is that the tactics engine is quite good.

We all already know how excellent FM is.No need to talk about it here.

So which game do you think is better?

I created this poll to see how many CM fans this forum has :D ;)
 
Opinion

I have heard that there are many bugs in Championship Manager 5. This is what puts gamers off buying the games.

Football Manager 2005 is very good and it gets my vote for its detail and realism. :)
 
Ok I'll put up some screens tomorrow.

I can tell you one thing - THE INTERFACE IS JUST HORRIBLE!!! :eek: :mad:
 
Yeah but in this,it is just terrible.The worst I've seen in any game.

It's like playing a shabby PS1 game.
 
LIST OF BUGS IN CM5(Courtesy of championshipmanager.co.uk)

Transfers
? Players not joining the user's club even though a transfer has been agreed
? User finding it very difficult to loan out players
? AI teams negotiating an offer even after user selects ?Non-negotiable?
? Transfer summary not including monthly instalments properly
? Being able to offer old players ?Hot Prospect? or ?Decent Young Player? squad status
? Top flight clubs being able to offer promotion bonus?
? Problems with negotiating with AI clubs
? Issues with AI rejecting reasonable transfer bids
? Errors when using a ?Fee per league appearance?
? Withdraw offer not disappearing from staff actions list
? Shortlisting players whose contract is expiring results in their contracts getting renewed every month
? Too many English Conference players valued at 1k
? Clubs don't take account of their finances when they consider transfer offers
? Being able to cancel players bosman transfers
? Crash when a bosman signing's contract expires
? Giving new contracts to players on bosmans
? Signing players whose contract is expiring - players move club before their contract actually expires
? Incorrect agreed transfers text for the above players
? Monthly installments not displayed correctly
? Not being able to offer players to clubs
? The limit for player loans is too high
? Board blocks player swap refering to it as a 'free transfer'

Competitions
? Italian League cup final being postponed due to internationals.
? No prize money for the Brazilian second division winner.
? Most players ineligible for the second round of the Champions Cup
? SPL Championship lozenge displays too early/after 33 matches
? SPL history shows positions 1-3 of split rather than actual championship winners/runners-up/third placed teams
? Champions League player registration changes occur too early

Misc.
? Game progress cannot be stopped (especially annoying for dates like transfer windows)
? Foreign refs in domestic competitions
? Coach reports always coming back as ?Invaluable member of squad?
? Coach reports world-class players not to be good enough for your team
? User able to change training when assistant is in charge
? Delete and Load confirmations needed on load game screen
? Empty entries into the screen history
? Craig Bellamy's loan contract incorrectly states he is ineligible for cup games
? Youth transfers not appearing in transfers history view
? Many teams bankrupt at end of first season
? The scrollbar in the Champions Cup registration screen is not moved when the filters are opened
? Able to set old players' squad status as decent young player or hot prospect
? Player average ratings too low
? Problems with players' second nationalities
? Incomplete alphabetical sorting when viewing club form
? Match postponement issues during FA Cup
? Contracts do not end at end of season
? Clubs not improving in status
? Club's financial status not updated
? Coaching stats too low for non-manager staff
? Richard Naylor's tackling stat too low
? Many conference clubs' stadia shown as all-seate
? No club progression
? Clubs can be promoted eventhough their stadiums do not conform to new leagues regulations
? View setting for squad screen is not remembered when saving and loading game
? Manager is only granted a rolling monthly contract after reaching all the expectations during their previous contract

Injuries
? Players not recovering from injuries
? Too many injuries picked up in training
? Incomplete injury text descriptions

Match Resolver
? Latest score tab is blank during European competitions
? Problems with subs not happening
? Problems with substitutions after a sending off and penalty
? Subs always having 100% condition
? Too many defender own goals
? Being offside from a corner
? Little variation in attendances
? Friendlies' attendances too high
? Defenders not moving towards ball
? Referee booking sequence takes too long
? Erratic goalkeeping behaviour
? Too many headers
? Too little friction between ball and ground
? Spelling mistake on tactics screen in Defend Free Kick options
? Player condition not reducing in second half
? Too many one on ones not scored
? Attack corner player instruction reverts to attack ball from edge of area
? Too many red cards
? Penalty count not updated in the set plays tab

Squad Screen
? Filters options being lost
? Team selection cleared after choosing squad for UEFA or CL
? Squad numbers can be changed mid-season
? Selection not remembered if reserve/U19 player assigned a first team position

Player Profiles
? Form tab giving no indication if the player was a sub/got injured etc.
? Actions button profile/info/form/history doesn't work if profile already onscreen
? Foreign players become unhappy quickly, miss training a lot and do not learn the language
? Minimum release fee value is not shown
? No way of knowing if a player has work permit eligibility

Board
? Board veto-ing bosman transfers
? Too many board takeovers at conference clubs
? Staff transfers being vetoed because of ?enough staff?
? Board expecting a play-off position when there aren?t any play-offs in the users league
? Board expects improvement in form after unbeaten run
? Unrealistic board/fan/media expectations
? Board messages do not reflect on the manager's time at the club after their contract is renewed

News and Media
? Incorrect messages regarding match results (e.g. Board pleased with 3-1 draw with Luton)
? Blank messages being received after signing a youth player
? Team knocked out of competitions told they have qualified for next seasons competition
? Coach reports appearing twice
? Missing ?S? in scout report
? Problems with Player of Month awards
? Missing text from upcoming season message
? Receiving result messages before a game has been played
? Message saying that a team ?Retained the Championship? which is impossible
? ?Invalid date? shown in contract renewal message
? News headline uses future tense when player has already completed a transfer
? Media messages for 'clubs interested in player' show teams with an unrealistic chance of succeding in the purchase of the named player
? Many scout reports state players not good enough
? Scout report text sometimes incorrectly refers to match in which player does not actually make an appearance
? Press speculation mainly covers defenders and goalies
? Inconsistent board responses to match results
? No news message when agreeing a future transfer
? Scout reports sometimes wrong about team form
? Messages are sent saying that players have signed '0 year' contracts

Player and Staff Search
? Language filter staff search doesn?t work
? Players appearing ineligible before european game
? Very few unemployed players at start of English game
? All unemployed players have Scottish nationality at start of Scottish game

Manager Options
? U19 staff assignment resets to default
? Unlikely job applications sometimes successful

Finances
? Clubs' financial status sometimes inappropriately stated as insecure
? Leeds' debt overstated
? Wage budget on finances screen not identical to that on offer contract screen
 
gold639 said:
LIST OF BUGS IN CM5(Courtesy of championshipmanager.co.uk)

Transfers
? Players not joining the user's club even though a transfer has been agreed
? User finding it very difficult to loan out players
? AI teams negotiating an offer even after user selects ?Non-negotiable?
? Transfer summary not including monthly instalments properly
? Being able to offer old players ?Hot Prospect? or ?Decent Young Player? squad status
? Top flight clubs being able to offer promotion bonus?
? Problems with negotiating with AI clubs
? Issues with AI rejecting reasonable transfer bids
? Errors when using a ?Fee per league appearance?
? Withdraw offer not disappearing from staff actions list
? Shortlisting players whose contract is expiring results in their contracts getting renewed every month
? Too many English Conference players valued at 1k
? Clubs don't take account of their finances when they consider transfer offers
? Being able to cancel players bosman transfers
? Crash when a bosman signing's contract expires
? Giving new contracts to players on bosmans
? Signing players whose contract is expiring - players move club before their contract actually expires
? Incorrect agreed transfers text for the above players
? Monthly installments not displayed correctly
? Not being able to offer players to clubs
? The limit for player loans is too high
? Board blocks player swap refering to it as a 'free transfer'

Competitions
? Italian League cup final being postponed due to internationals.
? No prize money for the Brazilian second division winner.
? Most players ineligible for the second round of the Champions Cup
? SPL Championship lozenge displays too early/after 33 matches
? SPL history shows positions 1-3 of split rather than actual championship winners/runners-up/third placed teams
? Champions League player registration changes occur too early

Misc.
? Game progress cannot be stopped (especially annoying for dates like transfer windows)
? Foreign refs in domestic competitions
? Coach reports always coming back as ?Invaluable member of squad?
? Coach reports world-class players not to be good enough for your team
? User able to change training when assistant is in charge
? Delete and Load confirmations needed on load game screen
? Empty entries into the screen history
? Craig Bellamy's loan contract incorrectly states he is ineligible for cup games
? Youth transfers not appearing in transfers history view
? Many teams bankrupt at end of first season
? The scrollbar in the Champions Cup registration screen is not moved when the filters are opened
? Able to set old players' squad status as decent young player or hot prospect
? Player average ratings too low
? Problems with players' second nationalities
? Incomplete alphabetical sorting when viewing club form
? Match postponement issues during FA Cup
? Contracts do not end at end of season
? Clubs not improving in status
? Club's financial status not updated
? Coaching stats too low for non-manager staff
? Richard Naylor's tackling stat too low
? Many conference clubs' stadia shown as all-seate
? No club progression
? Clubs can be promoted eventhough their stadiums do not conform to new leagues regulations
? View setting for squad screen is not remembered when saving and loading game
? Manager is only granted a rolling monthly contract after reaching all the expectations during their previous contract

Injuries
? Players not recovering from injuries
? Too many injuries picked up in training
? Incomplete injury text descriptions

Match Resolver
? Latest score tab is blank during European competitions
? Problems with subs not happening
? Problems with substitutions after a sending off and penalty
? Subs always having 100% condition
? Too many defender own goals
? Being offside from a corner
? Little variation in attendances
? Friendlies' attendances too high
? Defenders not moving towards ball
? Referee booking sequence takes too long
? Erratic goalkeeping behaviour
? Too many headers
? Too little friction between ball and ground
? Spelling mistake on tactics screen in Defend Free Kick options
? Player condition not reducing in second half
? Too many one on ones not scored
? Attack corner player instruction reverts to attack ball from edge of area
? Too many red cards
? Penalty count not updated in the set plays tab

Squad Screen
? Filters options being lost
? Team selection cleared after choosing squad for UEFA or CL
? Squad numbers can be changed mid-season
? Selection not remembered if reserve/U19 player assigned a first team position

Player Profiles
? Form tab giving no indication if the player was a sub/got injured etc.
? Actions button profile/info/form/history doesn't work if profile already onscreen
? Foreign players become unhappy quickly, miss training a lot and do not learn the language
? Minimum release fee value is not shown
? No way of knowing if a player has work permit eligibility

Board
? Board veto-ing bosman transfers
? Too many board takeovers at conference clubs
? Staff transfers being vetoed because of ?enough staff?
? Board expecting a play-off position when there aren?t any play-offs in the users league
? Board expects improvement in form after unbeaten run
? Unrealistic board/fan/media expectations
? Board messages do not reflect on the manager's time at the club after their contract is renewed

News and Media
? Incorrect messages regarding match results (e.g. Board pleased with 3-1 draw with Luton)
? Blank messages being received after signing a youth player
? Team knocked out of competitions told they have qualified for next seasons competition
? Coach reports appearing twice
? Missing ?S? in scout report
? Problems with Player of Month awards
? Missing text from upcoming season message
? Receiving result messages before a game has been played
? Message saying that a team ?Retained the Championship? which is impossible
? ?Invalid date? shown in contract renewal message
? News headline uses future tense when player has already completed a transfer
? Media messages for 'clubs interested in player' show teams with an unrealistic chance of succeding in the purchase of the named player
? Many scout reports state players not good enough
? Scout report text sometimes incorrectly refers to match in which player does not actually make an appearance
? Press speculation mainly covers defenders and goalies
? Inconsistent board responses to match results
? No news message when agreeing a future transfer
? Scout reports sometimes wrong about team form
? Messages are sent saying that players have signed '0 year' contracts

Player and Staff Search
? Language filter staff search doesn?t work
? Players appearing ineligible before european game
? Very few unemployed players at start of English game
? All unemployed players have Scottish nationality at start of Scottish game

Manager Options
? U19 staff assignment resets to default
? Unlikely job applications sometimes successful

Finances
? Clubs' financial status sometimes inappropriately stated as insecure
? Leeds' debt overstated
? Wage budget on finances screen not identical to that on offer contract screen

oh so there is only a couple of bugs in it... not too bad then
 

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