Cricketing Queries

[sohum]

I assume this is the obstruction part g speaks of, so it is still out.

I don't think the wickets count as an obstruction. I don't think that case has any defined behavior because the likelihood of it happening is extremely minuscule.

 

[Kshitiz_Indian]

Kinda stupid But if a bowler is in his run up, and the non striker is out of his crease, can the bowler run him out before even bowling the ball? (Lagaan anyone? )

 

[Highlander999]

I got run-out that way once, so I assume yes. I was not happy one bit and took a swipe at the stumps with my bat. Got banned from 3 school matches, although it might have been down to me making a comment about the bowler being Pakistani (maybe racist ) and a cheating little scum bag who obviously didn't have the talent to get me out the proper way.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

You need to provide a warning before running out someone that way. They can only start running when you are in your delivery stride

 

[pcfan123]

Kinda stupid But if a bowler is in his run up, and the non striker is out of his crease, can the bowler run him out before even bowling the ball? (Lagaan anyone? )

This used to be called the 'Mankad' rule after some Indian guy who did this in an International match. Since then it has been taken out of the rules. Now the bowler just stops his run up and the umpire will warn the non-striker.

 

[Dabi]

This used to be called the 'Mankad' rule after some Indian guy who did this in an International match. Since then it has been taken out of the rules. Now the bowler just stops his run up and the umpire will warn the non-striker.

Can he not still run the non-striker out before the bowler jumps?
I know that the bowler stops and the umpire warns him but isn't that because running someone out for backing up too far is considered against the spirit of the game? I know you could run the other person out without a warning if you so choose but I'm not sure if it's still applicable.

 

[pcfan123]

Im pretty sure the removed that rule from the laws. You just can't do it anymore, you have to warn them and if they keep doing it the umpire gets involved.

 

[Dabi]

Im pretty sure the removed that rule from the laws. You just can't do it anymore, you have to warn them and if they keep doing it the umpire gets involved.

Yeah I do know they tinkered with the law, not sure what the new one is exactly though!

 

[sohum]

Law 38 (Run out)

MCC logo1. Out Run out
(a) Either batsman is out Run out, except as in 2 below, if at any time while the ball is in play
(i) he is out of his ground
and (ii) his wicket is fairly put down by the opposing side.

(b) (a) above shall apply even though No ball has been called and whether or not a run is being attempted, except in the circumstances of Law 39.3(b) (Not out Stumped).

2. Batsman not Run out
Notwithstanding 1 above, a batsman is not out Run out if
(a) he has been within his ground and has subsequently left it to avoid injury, when the wicket is put down.

(b) the ball has not subsequently been touched again by a fielder, after the bowler has entered his delivery stride, before the wicket is put down.

(c) the ball, having been played by the striker, or having come off his person, directly strikes a helmet worn by a fielder and without further contact with him or any other fielder rebounds directly on to the wicket. However, the ball remains in play and either batsman may be Run out in the circumstances of 1 above if a wicket is subsequently put down.

(d) he is out Stumped. See Law 39.1(b) (Out Stumped).

(e) he is out of his ground, not attempting a run and his wicket is fairly put down by the wicket-keeper without the intervention of another member of the fielding side, if No ball has been called. See Law 39.3(b) (Not out Stumped).

3. Which batsman is out
The batsman out in the circumstances of 1 above is the one whose ground is at the end where the wicket is put down. See Laws 2.8 (Transgression of the Laws by a batsman who has a runner) and 29.2 (Which is a batsman's ground).

4. Runs scored
If a batsman is dismissed Run out, the batting side shall score the runs completed before the dismissal, together with the penalty for a No ball or a Wide, if applicable. Other penalties to either side that may be awarded when the ball is dead shall also stand. See Law 42.17 (Penalty runs).
If, however, a striker with a runner is himself dismissed Run out, runs completed by the runner and the other batsman before the dismissal shall not be scored. The penalty for a No ball or a Wide and any other penalties to either side that may be awarded when the ball is dead shall stand. See Laws 2.8 (Transgression of the Laws by a batsman who has a runner) and 42.17(b) (Penalty runs).

5. Bowler does not get credit
The bowler does not get credit for the wicket.

Law 38 (Run out) - Laws - Laws of Cricket - Laws & Spirit - Lord's

Looking at the bolded part above, it appears that the bowler does not count as a fielder and hence some other fielder has to have touched the ball after the bowler has entered his delivery stride. I don't know if, lawfully, a bowler "turns into" a fielder after he has entered a delivery stride meaning that if he goes through the action of bowling and then bowls the ball into the stumps at the umpire's end, if the runner would be out.

Back in the day, the ball was considered to be "in play" when the bowler started his run-up, meaning that a non-striker could be run out while the bowler was running down to bowl. They've definitely changed that... and it's probably a violation of the spirit of cricket if someone attempts to get a wicket like that.

 

[Cricketman]

Im pretty sure the removed that rule from the laws. You just can't do it anymore, you have to warn them and if they keep doing it the umpire gets involved.

I know Kapil did it against Kirsten soon after we won the WC. He warned him a few times though and eventually he just took off the bails. It was out.

 

[pcfan123]

 

[deathrevenge9]

Some more Questions:

• Is a Wide ball counted in the total balls faced by a batsman??

Another Silly question that,

• If the non-striker is out of his crease and the batsman plays a shot which hits the stumps after touching the hand of the bowler (without touching the ground) and a fielder catches the ball then who will be out?The batsman or the non-striker??

 

[pcfan123]

Some more Questions:

• Is a Wide ball counted in the total balls faced by a batsman??

Another Silly question that,

• If the non-striker is out of his crease and the batsman plays a shot which hits the stumps after touching the hand of the bowler (without touching the ground) and a fielder catches the ball then who will be out?The batsman or the non-striker??

First one is yes

Second one is run out because that is the wicket that fell first.

hMarka added 1 Minutes and 51 Seconds later...

Just think of the second one in this scenario:

SPinner bowls, batsman edges ball clips the stump and keeper catches it. Its bowled, not caught because bowled happened first.

 

[drainpipe32]

Im pretty sure the removed that rule from the laws. You just can't do it anymore, you have to warn them and if they keep doing it the umpire gets involved.

It happened with us in club cricket, the rule now is that you have to swap the ball from your bowling hand to your other hand, and then hit the wicket.

 

[Gurjot95]

First one is yes

I dont think so. Wide never counts as ball faced for batsman because they dont play that ball. Reason is simple if batsman play wide ball it will count as total balls he faced but if he didn't played the wide ball, it will count as wide. Although No-ball is count as total balls faced by batsman whether you play or not.