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aussie1st said:
Something you find in space.

As for science being needed to take things seriously. I don't want to bring this in but what is the science explaniation for what Jesus did? Also what is science explaniation for human beings coming to earth? Did they just magically appear?
Something you find in space? The photo was taken from the ground, and the object is in the sky!

Science explanation for what Jesus did. Firstly, there is no actual evidence that any one called Jesus did what is described in the Bible. And the Bible is highly unreliable as a historical document. But go and ask any stage magician to turn water into wine, and they'll be able to do it, with a little preperation.

Science eplanation for how human beings appeared. Firstly, human beings didn't just appear. Like evey other living thing on the planet they evolved over millenia from a common ancestor. How that common ancestor of all living things came into being is the thing that science can't answer at the moment, but that doesn't mean you automatically turn to the supernatural to explain it, as that avoids looking for an answer.
 
andrew_nixon said:
Science explanation for what Jesus did. Firstly, there is no actual evidence that any one called Jesus did what is described in the Bible. And the Bible is highly unreliable as a historical document. But go and ask any stage magician to turn water into wine, and they'll be able to do it, with a little preperation.

This statement basically shows that people have different beliefs. You go via science, I go via super natural.

As for the UFO pictures why would there be millions of pictures that are all fake? If it was one or two then I would think they are in for it for the money but millions of pictures?

Also what is the explaniation for people that see these UFOs?
 
But if such UFO's do exist as they have been spotted,do those creatures know about our existence? I suppose all these questions can only be answered by time.But I beleive there is life outside our planet as well.
 
IF they do exist then I would say they defintiely know about our existance. There has been numerous reported abductions so obviously they would know us. Most likely they are way more advanced than us assuming you are a supernatural believer like myself.
 
aussie1st said:
IF they do exist then I would say they defintiely know about our existance. There has been numerous reported abductions so obviously they would know us. Most likely they are way more advanced than us assuming you are a supernatural believer like myself.

I am definately,that is why I posted what I did previously.
 
aussie1st said:
This statement basically shows that people have different beliefs. You go via science, I go via super natural.

As for the UFO pictures why would there be millions of pictures that are all fake? If it was one or two then I would think they are in for it for the money but millions of pictures?

Also what is the explaniation for people that see these UFOs?
If you want to be taken seriously, then you have to go through the science route. Saying something is supernatural is not an answer.

There is no evidence for alien craft ever visiting this planet. Just answer this question: do you really think that photo you posted is real?

Let me let you into a little secret. Most of that description for that photo I posted is made up. The photo is real though.

It's a photo of ball lightning. A perfectly natural phenomana that is as yet not completely explained. It's properties are imense speed (faster than human aircraft), the ability to materialise from nowhere, the ability to disapear, the ability to perform manoevors that no human aircraft could possibly do. Gee it sounds just like a UFO doesn't it!

aussie1st said:
IF they do exist then I would say they defintiely know about our existance. There has been numerous reported abductions so obviously they would know us. Most likely they are way more advanced than us assuming you are a supernatural believer like myself.
There are reported abductions, but no actual evidence of abductions. None. Zip. Nada.

By the way, I do actually accept that there probably is life elsewhere in the universe. This is not a supernatural belief. But to suggest that they're visiting us is just ludicrous, unless you can provide evidence!
 
Yes I believe the photos are real.

Instead of just taking the easy way out and saying the photos are fake. Why not prove via science what these things are thus making the UFO, IFO.

The descriptions you mentioned could all be very possible in the future. We just haven't discovered far enough to be able to do them yet.
 
andrew_nixon said:
There are reported abductions, but no actual evidence of abductions. None. Zip. Nada.

By the way, I do actually accept that there probably is life elsewhere in the universe. This is not a supernatural belief. But to suggest that they're visiting us is just ludicrous, unless you can provide evidence!

Obviously you can't prove abductions. You aren't going to take a video camera to film yourself being abducted. Abductions thus will never be proved.

If there is other life forms why wouldn't they want to visit us?
 
aussie1st said:
Instead of just taking the easy way out and saying the photos are fake. Why not prove via science what these things are thus making the UFO, IFO.

The descriptions you mentioned could all be very possible in the future. We just haven't discovered far enough to be able to do them yet.
I just gave you a scienitfic explanation! While a perfectly natural phenomana is capable of doing what it is claim alien craft can do, I'm going to stick with the natural explanation, as would any rational person.

aussie1st said:
Obviously you can't prove abductions. You aren't going to take a video camera to film yourself being abducted. Abductions thus will never be proved.
If something can't be proved 100%, the rational person looks at the evidence available and makes a decision. In the cas of alien abductions, there is only one conclusion a rational person can come to in the light of the available evidence.

aussie1st said:
If there is other life forms why wouldn't they want to visit us?
I didn't say they wouldn't want to visit us. I said they haven't visited us, which is a FACT.

The funny thing is, 10 years ago, I was exactly like you. Absoultely sure all those photos were real, absolutely sure that people had been abducted by aliens.

Then I thought about it.
 
andrew_nixon said:
I didn't say they wouldn't want to visit us. I said they haven't visited us, which is a FACT.

If you don't believe in UFO, no question, if you do then of course you go there other way.

andrew_nixon said:
The funny thing is, 10 years ago, I was exactly like you. Absoultely sure all those photos were real, absolutely sure that people had been abducted by aliens.

Then I thought about it.

You can think about it but unless you only stick with science it always goes towards UFO being true.
 
aussie1st said:
You can think about it but unless you only stick with science it always goes towards UFO being true.
What? The ONLY way to go is to stick with science! If you want to prove that UFOs exist, then the only way to do it is to prove it scientifically! If you just say "oh it's supernatural", that isn't an answer, it's avoiding looking for an answer, and people will be safe to say that you're an irrational fool.

aussie1st said:
If you don't believe in UFO, no question, if you do then of course you go there other way.
If the question is "Have alien craft visited this planet?", the only possible answer, in light of the available evidence, is no.

If the evidence for alien visitation was as overwhelming as you seem to think it is, then there would be no question at all.
 
aussie1st said:
Refresh my memory on the Bermuda triangle.

Many people believed it was a supernatural phenomenon but it's proven scientifically something you haven't been able to do, it's caused by huge releases of Methane underneath the surface of the ocean floor it affects ships because they can't stay afloat when it's released and aircraft crash because there is a huge drop in air pressure.

UFOs are like god, a belief that can't be scientifically proven.

aussie1st said:
Obviously you can't prove abductions. You aren't going to take a video camera to film yourself being abducted. Abductions thus will never be proved.

If there is other life forms why wouldn't they want to visit us?

We know more about space than we do of our deep oceans. If there was other life forms we would undoubtly be able to prove it 100%. I just don't believe it as they wouldn't be able to design something to get through our atmosphere.

People abducted by 'aliens' often have a history of mental anguish, the brain/mind does weird and awful things, abducted by aliens is one of them. It's a fantasy and call for attention.
 
andrew_nixon said:
I disagree here. If alien craft really were visiting this planet, then it would be possible to scientifically prove that they exist.

Perhaps they have some technology which makes our science knowledge useless,anyway all our comments are hypothetical.
 

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