Does 'Form' make a difference?

[Burma's Finest]

Has anyone noticed whether or not a batsman or bowler's form during a test series or foreign tour actually makes any difference to the way the game plays or not? I can't say that I've seen any difference yet. Thoughts?

 

[khan31]

It does if you autoplay. Vaughan wasn't really on form for me and made 7 & 12. I then batted with him in the next match and made 125 & 143*. Then in the next match I autoplayed and he scored 74* & 112. I think this was due to his back to back centuries.

 

[Burma's Finest]

But his poor form in the first match didn't affect your manual playing experience in the second match? Confidence didn't go up any faster, timing easier, etc.?

 

[satishmania]

no i don think form affects in any way while batting

 

[JANER]

Good points, Burmas finest

 

[Burma's Finest]

Good points, Burmas finest

Thanks. Have been playing a test series and looked at the stats for the first time. The 'form' thing stood out as something that you would think should have an impact on the game, yet I couldn't notice any! I was hoping that anyone who had played a few more series than me might be able to prove me wrong. If it does nothing, then what's the point of it?

 

[FishBowlMan]

I've not got far enough through a tour to find out yet. I remember there was a similar batting and bowling form last year that didn't seem to do much. (I believe that was actually my very first post here in the dim distant past! )

I would hope they've sorted it. Quicker confidence building would definitely be a good way to go.

 

[kymsheba]

Thanks. Have been playing a test series and looked at the stats for the first time. The 'form' thing stood out as something that you would think should have an impact on the game, yet I couldn't notice any! I was hoping that anyone who had played a few more series than me might be able to prove me wrong. If it does nothing, then what's the point of it?

hi guys testing this now with CPU vs CPU after FishBowlMan had an idea on how to watch CPU play a game against itself, I am doing Ashes Series this way and will let you know if a batters confidence is affected at all, if you want to know how to watch CPU vs CPU look for my thread about how to do it....Now we know how to watch CPU games it is great for testing out this sort of thing with the confidence thing...

*NOTE*
All credit for CPU vs CPU viewing goes to FishBowlMan he told me how to do it.

 

[Burma's Finest]

hi guys testing this now with CPU vs CPU ... I am doing Ashes Series this way and will let you know if a batters confidence is affected at all. ... Now we know how to watch CPU games it is great for testing out this sort of thing with the confidence thing...

Well, yes and no. My concern is that it only affects autoplay scenarios (if anything) rather than actual hands-on gameplay. Bowler has smaller target zone, easier to control for example. Batsmen time the ball better from the start, more solid in defense, etc. I mean, if you bat AND bowl manually, then it's all a little moot.

 

[kymsheba]

Well, yes and no. My concern is that it only affects autoplay scenarios (if anything) rather than actual hands-on gameplay. Bowler has smaller target zone, easier to control for example. Batsmen time the ball better from the start, more solid in defense, etc. I mean, if you bat AND bowl manually, then it's all a little moot.

yep i agree i think it would most probably be for the CPU only so hopefully that is what i am hoping to discover to see if the CPU batters are affected by this or if it is for us as well....maybe it increases the human chances of getting out?

 

[Andrew G]

That's a really good question Burma's Finest...

I have no idea wether form does have an effect on
how good a player (ie. Gilly, Dizzy) will be. However I found
it strange when I was playing an England Ashes Tour that Gillespie
took 5 wickets in the 1 match (AUS vs County), then 7 in the
next (AUS vs ENG) and 5 wickets in the 3rd (AUS vs ENG)
and got Man of the Match in all 3 of those matches.
So it seemed his form did carry on to the next matches.

Another thing is,
does building partnerships help form/confidence when batting ?


PeAcE...
Andrew G.

 

[Burma's Finest]

Another thing is, does building partnerships help form/confidence when batting ?

I would suspect not, simply because the 'form' seems to be calculated after the matches are over and seems only to be a reflection of the number of runs scored. For example, I think if a batsman scores 30 in an innings, it gets represented as 'OK Form' whereas 40 is good, 20 is poor and so on. What bothers me with this is that if a tail-end batsmen (Brett Lee, anypne?) scores a fifty, then his 'form' should be off the chart, while if someone like Justin Langer scores a fifty, his form should not be so spectacular because that's his average. The last thing I want is to face a top-order batsman who has ratings in the nineties being boosted by extra confidence gained from what I would describe as average form. For me, the 'form' thing needs to act as a modifier/multiplier which is directly proportional to the batsman's baseline abilities (i.e., ratings) and averages. That would be sweet.

 

[Adarsh]

I would suspect not, simply because the 'form' seems to be calculated after the matches are over and seems only to be a reflection of the number of runs scored. For example, I think if a batsman scores 30 in an innings, it gets represented as 'OK Form' whereas 40 is good, 20 is poor and so on. What bothers me with this is that if a tail-end batsmen (Brett Lee, anypne?) scores a fifty, then his 'form' should be off the chart, while if someone like Justin Langer scores a fifty, his form should not be so spectacular because that's his average. The last thing I want is to face a top-order batsman who has ratings in the nineties being boosted by extra confidence gained from what I would describe as average form. For me, the 'form' thing needs to act as a modifier/multiplier which is directly proportional to the batsman's baseline abilities (i.e., ratings) and averages. That would be sweet.

Well, we can expect in xbox 3 in 2012

 

[Burma's Finest]

when I was playing an England Ashes Tour that Gillespie
took 5 wickets in the 1 match (AUS vs County), then 7 in the
next (AUS vs ENG) and 5 wickets in the 3rd (AUS vs ENG)
and got Man of the Match in all 3 of those matches.
So it seemed his form did carry on to the next matches.

I meant to ask earlier...
Was it you doing the bowling or was it Autoplay.

 

[Andrew G]

Hi Burma's Finest...

What bothers me with this is that if a tail-end batsmen (Brett Lee, anypne?) scores a fifty, then his 'form' should be off the chart, while if someone like Justin Langer scores a fifty, his form should not be so spectacular because that's his average.

For me, the 'form' thing needs to act as a modifier/multiplier which is directly proportional to the batsman's baseline abilities (i.e., ratings) and averages. That would be sweet.

I agree with that totally mate, and it's the way it should be.
If Glenn McGrath got 30+ runs, in real life that's a big score for him,
so yeah, it should be way off the charts and classed as excellent.
Unfortunate that it doesn't work that way.

I meant to ask earlier...
Was it you doing the bowling or was it Autoplay.

The first match against the county team (can't remember the name)
was me bowling, the two following matches was on Autoplay, mate.
In the County match, I had left Glenn McGrath out of the line-up,
but I used him in the following two games, now after those 3 matches,
Glenn McGrath has become the star bowler again, but it took him 4
matches to get there.


PeAcE...
Andrew G.