England's stars 'want IPL chance'

[manee]

IPL is a normal domestic competition and as such should be treated as one. Would you have a rest period for the Australian Big Bash T20 or the English T20 too? No you wouldn't. Just because IPL is paying big doesn't mean it should get special treatment.

As I noted before, the 'sentiment' is not good, but the reality is that the competition employs international stars from all over the world.

Players can choose to take part in IPL if they wish but if international players say they are doing it for anything rather than the money they are fooling nobody (except maybe you )

I am sure that they are doing it purely for money; but the fact is that as a window in the international calender, it can provide a great show of talent for the Indian fans (and the millions watching on TV) whilst resting the international players physically from the greater rigours of 50 over and Test cricket and mentally from the pressure of the international game.

 

[Skater]

IMO, since India is so powerful, they should extend the calendar year by 2 months, and play the IPL in those 2 months.

 

[manee]

IMO, since India is so powerful, they should extend the calendar year by 2 months, and play the IPL in those 2 months.

That was well funny! (That is how you do sarcasm)

 

[Kev]

Funny, doesn't the English competition feature international players from all over the world?

 

[manee]

Funny, doesn't the English competition feature international players from all over the world?

You and I both know that the extent and quality of such players is vastly superior in the IPL. This is not about sentiment, it is about the fact that the world's best players, with the exception of the English, are all playing in the IPL.

 

[Kev]

Ok, lets look at some inferior foreign players who've played in County cricket recently shall we.

Murali, Warne, Langer, Clark, Naved, Sangakkara, Rudolph, Sami, Jayasuriya, Kemp, Hall, Ahmed, Morkel, Gillespie, Malinga

I could go on, yes there isn't as big a number but thats because squads arent allowed as many overseas stars. It's nothing to do with quality. It's more to do with international commitments and money. If there was more money in the English system you wouldn't be calling for an international rest period for it would you.

 

[usy]

I think it's hilarious how the BCCI don't want the ECB to allow 2 Pakistani (Non-Indian) players to play in the CC season (Non-Indian Competetion).

Mind your own business and reap the rewards of your money-grabbing cricketing circus.

there is a very stupid guy from BCCCI said.

Niranjan Shah: 'We have an understanding with the other countries' boards that they can't allow players who are associated with the ICL to be allowed to play at any level'

stupid bitch

 

[manee]

Ok, lets look at some inferior foreign players who've played in County cricket recently shall we.

Murali, Warne, Langer, Clark, Naved, Sangakkara, Rudolph, Sami, Jayasuriya, Kemp, Hall, Ahmed, Morkel, Gillespie, Malinga

I could go on, yes there isn't as big a number but thats because squads arent allowed as many overseas stars. It's nothing to do with quality. It's more to do with international commitments and money.

The fact that squads are not allowed as many overseas stars means that there are more international players of high quality in the IPL. It is not County Cricket's fault that the IPL will have a higher level of competition due to more international stars.

If there was more money in the English system you wouldn't be calling for an international rest period for it would you.

Why the hell wouldn't I?

 

[Kev]

Sorry manee, you are never going to convince me that you would.

As a matter of fact there has been enough money in the county system to encourage players to quit international cricket for some time, but nobody mentioned a rest period when kolpak players turned their backs on international cricket. IPL is just splashing more cash, good luck to them, but they shouldn't get special treatment for having more money.

 

[manee]

Sorry manee, you are never going to convince me that you would.

Why not? I have an ambition to play County Cricket and so I do follow it and watch it often on TV, despite not paying much attention to the teams - I do not post much about it here as I do not possess many strong feelings about issues in it. It is absolute rubbish that I possess any sort of bias in terms of wanting the IPL to have an international window.

As a matter of fact there has been enough money in the county system to encourage players to quit international cricket for some time, but nobody mentioned a rest period when kolpak players turned their backs on international cricket. IPL is just splashing more cash, good luck to them, but they shouldn't get special treatment for having more money.

I am really not a fan of such sentiment (I should stop using that word) based talk. Ignoring how they got there, there is a competition with the best international talent in the world and so there should be a window to allow them to play in the competition in which they have chosen to play for.

 

[Leicester Fox]

I'm honestly happy with it because I believe there isn't an English cricketer with a genuine career ahead of them that would join it.

If someone likes Simon Jones or Harmy wants to pick up easy cash for a few weeks of easy cricket, when it's unlikely their careeer will ever take off again fair enough.

 

[Kev]

What you are essentially proposing by suggesting that the ICC should clear a space for IPL is that IPL is more important than any domestic competition or indeed international competition. It's not. It's going to be big, its going to be exciting but its not more important.

If they want English players how about holding it when the English season isnt in progress. The IPL is the new boy, the other competitions were already there, international tours have been planned until 2012 (or something). They are the guys who should be doing the moving if something doesn't suit them.

 

[manee]

What you are essentially proposing by suggesting that the ICC should clear a space for IPL is that IPL is more important than any domestic competition or indeed international competition. It's not. It's going to be big, its going to be exciting but its not more important.

Do the motive or implications really matter? It is a necessity to hold a window for the IPL. There is a demand from the players and a creation of a choice which can be easily avoided.

If they want English players how about holding it when the English season isnt in progress. The IPL is the new boy, the other competitions were already there, international tours have been planned until 2012 (or something). They are the guys who should be doing the moving if something doesn't suit them.

Two points:
1. The IPL are making an effort to move the IPL to not coincide with the English season, in future years.
2. I gave the FTP a read and it would seem that series' are roughly planned by months and the precise dates are created closer the event.

 

[Kev]

1. Then I'm sure they will get some players from England sign up then

2. Yes dates aren't fixed down to the day, my point was you don't come along after everything else is set and then make everyone move for you. Thats no different to people who buy houses by a motorway or airport than moan about the noise. If you owned the house before the airport then you have a right to complain, if not then its your problem. The fact that English players aren't signing up because they are already contracted elsewhere is the IPL's problem noone elses.

 

[manee]

They are not making everyone move and I have not read an article in which the IPL demands a window (keep in mind that players require a NOC from their board at all times to play in the IPL) - but the practically correct thing to do would be to have a window for the IPL.