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You never do hear from people who have died, no proof of what happens either. You'll just know when you die yourself. Even though I believe, you can't help but wonder if there really is a heavn & a hell. If there is, imagine these people pulling for you to do the right thing & make it to the pearly gates, and people rooting against you to burn in fire & brimstone.

Or what if there is no heaven or a hell, and reincarnation is the way. Imagine how many things you come across that may be trying to tell you that reincarnation is what happens. Could you imagine ignoring a bird, killing a bug, hitting a dog in the street, and it was your friend or loved one? Wouldn't that be some crazy stuff right there?

And what if there isn't a heaven or hell, what if everybody is just dead under the dirt talking to each other like neighbors, trading life stories. They'd be sitting under there saying, "Yeah, wait til everybody else finds out what this is like." It'd be dark, you're in an enclosed space & can't see shtuff. Even with firm beliefs, the possibilities after death are endless.

it's pretty darn scary.
 
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Or what if there is no heaven, no hell, no reincarnation, no weird underground talking. You just die and it's the end.

Not scary at all, just nothing.
 
yeah kev, I agree with you man, but the thing is, the only thing that makes me feel is the worst case scenario, possibilities of life after death are endless, stuff maybe we can't even think of.
 
yep, the possibilities are endless, but why are you scared of them? There is nothing you can do? Should it effect how you live your life? Personally I don't think so. I could be condemned to eternal hell after my life for all I know. But I can't know and there is nothing I can do about it, so why worry.
 
Personally I don't believe in God myself or any religion anymore, but i can't get over with the fact that do we really decide our destiny.

Yeah, thats the thing that made me stop beliving in stuff, why the hell do people get punished for things they did not create (their fate)?
 
I just can't imagine a 'nothing' though. Eternal blackness? Eternal sleep? What is nothing?

What I think will happen is the second you die, you'll open your eyes as someone/something else in birth. It technically won't be you anymore, you won't remember anything that happened, but it just happens.

Confusing.
 
I just can't imagine a 'nothing' though. Eternal blackness? Eternal sleep? What is nothing?

What I think will happen is the second you die, you'll open your eyes as someone/something else in birth. It technically won't be you anymore, you won't remember anything that happened, but it just happens.

Confusing.

co-signed

there sure is something much deeper there.
 
I just can't imagine a 'nothing' though. Eternal blackness? Eternal sleep? What is nothing?

Confusing.

The nothing feeling you will feel after you die will be a lot similar to the nothing feeling you felt before you were born.

You just stop existing.
 
The nothing feeling you will feel after you die will be a lot similar to the nothing feeling you felt before you were born.

You just stop existing.

Didn't feel anything before I was born. So I don't know how it could be nothing for an eternity. Supposedly it might be like when you get put under anaesthetic. You don't dream or anything, you just feel nothing.

But it'd be good if you could live your life over again and watch it.
 
I don't buy into the afterlife one little bit. I don't see how it could really work. Lets run it down:

Our existence as human beings is completely governed by our senses and perceptions. Our 5 senses are

Touch - Our central nervous system.
Smell - Our nose.
Sound - Our ears.
Sight - Our eyes.
Taste - Our taste buds.

These are all physical things, and they all work because of the brain. The brain interprets the signals sent by our senses and that's what makes us react and generally live. When the brain is damaged, or stops working we have absolutely nothing.

I've used this argument before, and I got the response: "But when we die, our bodies die but our souls live on and go to the after life".

Fair enough. But if the soul is capable of being you in the afterlife then it would have to be capable of these things (our senses, perceptions) by itself. If it is capable of that by itself, then why is it that if you take someones eyes out, they can't see. If you rip someones tongue out, they can't taste. There is no backup for these things in the "soul".

So if a soul can't smell, or hear, or taste, or feel then how can your soul really be you? Another fact is that all our experiences, our relationships and more importantly our thought processes are stored in the brain. If someone has damage in the part of the brain that stores their memories, they loose their memories. I knew a girl in Australia who was hit by a car and she had serious brain damage in the lobe of the brain that stored her memories, and she lost them. Permanently.

So explain to me where I'm wrong here..

I'd love to buy into this after life stuff, but I can't see past the fact that believing in it involves ignoring the laws of the universe, which isn't something I like doing.

Didn't feel anything before I was born.

Exactly, because you didn't exist and when you die you wont feel anything either.

That's my take on it all.
 
Behold Usy! The great philosopher :hpraise:hpraise :p

Anyway, back to serious business. I might be too young to comment on this, but here's my views.

Supposedly it might be like when you get put under anaesthetic. You don't dream or anything, you just feel nothing.

Exactly. Afterlife, heaven, hell- they are craps. After you die, you just don't feel anything. You feel "nothing" in other words. As your brain stops working and conduction of impulses comes to a halt. Has somebody here been put under anaesthetic? You'll understand what I'm trying to say. It's just "nothing". You don't dream, you don't move, you just stay there and just there. You don't feel anything at all. It's like an eternal darkness, total darkness; "nothing".
 
Exactly. Afterlife, heaven, hell- they are craps. After you die, you just don't feel anything. You feel "nothing" in other words. As your brain stops working and conduction of impulses comes to a halt. Has somebody here been put under anaesthetic? You'll understand what I'm trying to say. It's just "nothing". You don't dream, you don't move, you just stay there and just there. You don't feel anything at all. It's like an eternal darkness, total darkness; "nothing".

I in essence agree with what you're saying but I think people are reading to much into this "nothing". There isn't eternal darkness. There isn't eternal light. There just isn't.

It'd be just like before you were born. There was no darkness and there was no feeling like you had been put under anesthetic, there was just no existence.
 
Didn't feel anything before I was born. So I don't know how it could be nothing for an eternity. Supposedly it might be like when you get put under anaesthetic. You don't dream or anything, you just feel nothing.

But it'd be good if you could live your life over again and watch it.

yeah, imagine becoming a PC admin next life, I would sure ban most of you fella's.
 
Or what if there is no heaven, no hell, no reincarnation, no weird underground talking. You just die and it's the end.

Not scary at all, just nothing.

Like watching Rob Key bat when there are England selectors watching him?
 

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