General Cricket Discussion

[NILAYSHAH60]

This match is still love. Really really pleased to be able to relive this entire match once again ! Literally no words I have to praise the team effort of this side. Zaheer's spell, Sachin's quickfire start, Gambhir controlling the innings and a great finish from Dhoni and Yuvraj. You just have to stand up and applause the Captaincy of this great legend, the one and only- MSD.

 

[Neo 7]

Just saw Archer's birthdate by chance .

Jofra Archer was born on 1st April , but his messages are for real ( And everytime man the irony ........ ) . :3

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Trying to watch the 2003 World Cup match between Pakistan and India.

Few things I noticed from the 15 overs so far,

1. Saeed Anwar who made his debut in 1994 still managed to have a strike rate over 80 even after being an opener and playing majorly in the 90s talks about the way he played his Cricket specially that 194 in 1997 against India at Chennai.
2. Zaheer looked so nervous back then, Bumrah looked similar in 2017 Champions Trophy.
3. Pakistan team played a different level of Cricket back in those days
4. Quite surprised to see the cheer that Nehra got when he came on to bowl. Might be a lot to do with the way he bowled in the last match.
5. Srinath was really a great bowler for India but he still had a room for improvement. Had he not been troubled with injuries he would've been legendary.

Edit:
Further talking about the rest of the match,

1. Back in those days Sachin Tendulkar used to do for India what the Present top 3 does today.
2. Teams used to take full advantage of the fielding restrictions in place by playing some attacking shots.
3. Sachin-Sehwag pair was actually the best opening pair for India in One day Internationals which decimated some of the world's best bowling.
4. I felt the game used to be a lot more competitive as compared to the way it is being played today. Even though when the batsman used to run away with the game the bowlers and the fielders always had that belief that they could comeback.
5. Also the batsman were well capable to comeback into the game even with the loss of early wickets by playing with caution.
6. Back in those days, the Indian players played the game as one unit. They enjoyed the moments, the felt the pain, were eager to see their team mates achieve success by staying together with each other. Credits to the great man called Sourav Ganguly. He was a man with a great heart as he brought the team together in those dark days of Indian Cricket to made them believe that they can win from any situation.
7. The Pakistan bowling attack had a deadly combination of Akhtar, Wasim and Waqar with Afridi and Razzaq playing a helping hand. Saqlain Mushtaq did really well to make his place in the team special and was very fortunate to achieve the level of success he did.

In all a gem of a contest that was! This had to probably be the best India Pakistan game when it came to World Cups. I think as a Cricket fan it really made my day to be able to watch the entire match which I missed out back in those days.

 

[Neo 7]

Doing some random search , I now feel how interesting those multi-team tournaments would've been to watch . In the 80s and the 90s ....

Benson & Hedges , Four Nations , Austral-Asia Cup ...

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Doing some random search , I now feel how interesting those multi-team tournaments would've been to watch . In the 80s and the 90s ....

Benson & Hedges , Four Nations , Austral-Asia Cup ...

The Sharjah Cup actually beats all of them. I really liked to watch those matches. I watched them for the first time some 7 years ago. Those matches were treat to watch.

 

[CerealKiller]

If you haven’t watched this already, don’t wait anymore

 

[abhi_jacko]

• Sachin-Sehwag pair was actually the best opening pair for India in One day Internationals which decimated some of the world's best bowling.

Only incorrect point in a very good list of observations. It was actually Sachin-Ganguly for many reasons

1. Way more consistent than Sehwag-Sachin. Sehwag was awfully inconsistent in ODIs, when it was supposed to be his preferred format
2. Sheer amount of runs scored by SRT-SG and the number of 100+ partnerships put up by these two. The numbers are staggering for a duo who mainly played together in 90s-2000s
3. They complemented each other a lot better than Sachin-Sehwag combo
4. Ganguly despite all his short ball deficiency was still a loads better overseas player than Sehwag
5. The immense pressure on them to give a good start as they were the batting mainstays of the lineup leading into a decent but not fearsome middle order. Sehwag was always considered a wild card later on, because he could get out at any time
6. Most important point: Aesthetically pleasing to the eye from both ends - Sachin/Sehwag were similar in style. With Sachin-Dada, you would see backoot punches and bullet straight drives from one end, and then piercing cover drives (through a 7-2 field) and lofted sixes off spinners at the other end. It was delightful

I could go on ...

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Well that Sachin-Dada pair is truly an emotion. I actually started watching Cricket way after Ganguly had retired but I always enjoyed watching them bat together. But why I said Sehwag-Sachin was the run-rate factor. Because of Sehwag's aggressive starts Sachin used to be a lot more into his comfort zone and that really helped in to rack up runs on the board. As I say this, I actually remembered we had a similar discussion few months ago when we discussed why Rahul-Rohit pair is better to begin with than Rohit-Dhawan.

Anyways, what I noticed special in that Ganguly-Sachin pair was the bonding between those. It seems similar to what Sri Lanka had with Mahela-Sanga pair.

As for Ganguly I really liked the way he used to charged down to the bowlers to hit them out of the park. Here, we are not just talking about spinners but quality pacers like McGrath & Jason Gillespie (remember 2000 knockout Trophy ? The match which Yuvraj made his debut). Against spinners Ganguly was a real demon. I remember that Sharjah Cup match against Zimbabwe which India I guess won by 9 wickets ? In that match Ganguly hit some towering sixes to some random left-arm spinner whose name I don't remember. But that was some real treat to watch with Tendulkar destroying the bowlers from the other end.

 

[Deleted member 193590]

Was watching this today,what a bowling lineup Pakistan had.Wasim,Waqar and then an opening over like this from Shoaib.

 

[abhi_jacko]

But why I said Sehwag-Sachin was the run-rate factor.

Agree with the rest of your post. But if you will notice, Sachin-Saurav on a good wicket were always scoring at a minimum of 5-6 rpo and often times even smashing world class bowling at 8-9 rpo. Sachin-Sehwag might have score at maybe 0.5-1+ rpo extra max. Their real value was on tougher wickets and overseas, where they would switch between the roles of aggressor/stabilizer with ease based on who was feeling comfy.

And Ganguly could actually be far more aggressive than Sehwag with far lesser risk. Natwest final comes to mind, where Ganguly was absolutely smashing the bowlers all over

 

[Bevab]

The ECB is showing off a live replay of their test match versus India at Edgbaston two years ago in about two hours. The game had one of the finest knocks in Indian test history from Kohli, an innings that would have made Cricinfo's greatest 25 test knocks of all-time had India won the game.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

The ECB is showing off a live replay of their test match versus India at Edgbaston two years ago in about two hours. The game had one of the finest knocks in Indian test history from Kohli, an innings that would have made Cricinfo's greatest 25 test knocks of all-time had India won the game.

Not gonna watch that same rubbish once again where we just competed and yet our team management said that we were the best touring side.

 

[Bevab]

Not gonna watch that same rubbish once again where we just competed and yet our team management said that we were the best touring side.

If I am correct, that was the game before which Pujara gave an interview where he sounded a bit arrogant and then was dropped leaving us with a top three of Dhawan, Vijay and Rahul. And funnily enough, Dhawan seemed like the best of the three the way they performed!

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

If I am correct, that was the game before which Pujara gave an interview where he sounded a bit arrogant and then was dropped leaving us with a top three of Dhawan, Vijay and Rahul. And funnily enough, Dhawan seemed like the best of the three the way they performed!

To me the result wasn't much of a surprise because we lost in our strongest format during that time which was the ODI format. I was expecting the drubbing. I didn't really expect it to be as poor as Lord's Test. And neither I expected it to be competitive. I felt a 2014 would get repeated. Both positives and negatives out there.

 

[Neo 7]

Have no idea why Tiwary barely got a chance to establish himself in the national side. He was one of the best middle order players we had and could have played a huge part in helping those middle order issues.

Even Manish Pandey . We hear that some players don't get chance due to the already strong competition in the team . Oppositely , Manish didn't got those chances even when there were slots open in the team ....