How Ungreatful

[Azeem]

This is my review of the new BLIC 07 and if my views or comments offend anyone I will apologize right now.

First I would like to point out how some of you are very ungreatful towards the effort of the game. If you all are so dissapointed and so critical I would love for you to go out and make a game even half as good as this one. For a person like me that does not have cricket readily available to them I think the game is by far the best I have ever played. It is challenging by the feilding aspect, bowling, and batting. I am having so much trouble getting a hold of the game and I am loving every second of it. Only because it makes every wicket that more sweet, every run that more valuable, and every catch taken that more beautiful.

Yah the game has its short comings and annoyances but they can be overlooked by the sheer love and passion I have for cricket. I couldn't go to the corner game store and just pick up this game. I had to go through a lot to get it thats maybe why I appreciate it more then you all. I respect your views. I understand that the keeper knocking the bails off every time is annoying but I accept it because its cricket and the game is VERY entertaining to me. I am not going to list the bad points of the game because I don't really think there are any. And what you think is bad has already been posted.

My brother is playing it right now and the realism is beyond unbeleivable. He is Pakistan playing in the WC against West Indies. He won the toss and put them into bat. It is 35 overs into the match and they have scored 214 and have lost 5 wickets. It is WAY more challenging then 05 so I don't know how you guys can say its easy.

I was great at batting in 05 and would score six sixes in one over with no problem. Batting in this has been very difficult for me and I still have not got the hang of it even though I have been playing it for 3 days straight. I love the new touches like them screaming "Keepers end" and "Bowlers end". Also ppl complained about the crowd noises and I still can not figure out what you guys found that was so annoying. The commentating has always been great and supercedes anything EA's games did.

All in all my final say is that I love this game and it is amazing. Anybody can sit around and say negative things about a game. But I would love you to sit there and program something better. Once again I would like to apologize if I offended anyone because that is not why I posted this.

 

[Part-Time Jaffa]

i havent got the game yet,getting it in bout 3 hours when i clock off work,and i hope i share the same enjoyment level that u do.it was good to read somethin positive about the game and i even started a thread earlier today about the good points of game.i was really interested in wat ppl thought was rite about the game. well done mate

 

[me_no_crazyfool]

What platform are you playing this on? PC/360/PS2??

Was nice to see something positive on these forums. I purchased the game 2 hours ago, but have to wait until after work to play it..... not as excited as I would have normally been after reading all the bad comments, but I am determined to get some enjoyment out of it.

 

[Azeem]

Well thanks guys hope u like it like i did. I got it for the PS2.

 

[AbBh]

If you all are so dissapointed and so critical I would love for you to go out and make a game even half as good as this one.

well actually legend_master is making The Art of Cricket which will be 10 times better than this one.

 

[RIPPA MATE]

isnt that what everybody says when a new game is coming "this game is going to be heaps better than BLIC" or what ever.

 

[barmyarmy]

I think you're totally missing the point.
The fact gamers aren't making their own game doesn't take away their right to criticise sub-standard products. The logical extension of your arguement is if you don't like your car, make your own; if you don't like the house you live in, build your own.
The criticism you have read comes from a sense of being let down by Codemasters. This game has a lot of potential but is lacking in some vital areas. I would like to think that most the feedback is constructive and focused and not just potshots for the sake of it.

I am not going to list the bad points of the game because I don't really think there are any.

There's not much I can say to that comment except that it invalidates most your post.

 

[Azeem]

well actually legend_master is making The Art of Cricket which will be 10 times better than this one.

well I havent looked around for his criticism of the game...but I am sure he realizes it is quite difficult to program and get everything "perfect" as everyone would have hoped

isnt that what everybody says when a new game is coming "this game is going to be heaps better than BLIC" or what ever.

well im speaking from actually playing the game and i believe it is way better then its predecessor

I think you're totally missing the point.
The fact gamers aren't making their own game doesn't take away their right to criticise sub-standard products. The logical extension of your arguement is if you don't like your car, make your own; if you don't like the house you live in, build your own.
The criticism you have read comes from a sense of being let down by Codemasters. This game has a lot of potential but is lacking in some vital areas. I would like to think that most the feedback is constructive and focused and not just potshots for the sake of it.



There's not much I can say to that comment except that it invalidates most your post.

Criticizing is fine but I see a lot of people turning the game down because it is less then "perfect". My arguement is that the game is practically fine. I see no big problems with it that would make it inferior or "sub-standard". I am merely stating my opinion. As far as your "make your own house and car" statement goes well you took what I said way out of context. It seems like everyone beleives they are critics and can judge something when they have no credibility too.

Also I did not find any bad points in the game. ppl are saying that its annoying that the feilder hits the stumps every time....well i just learned if you actually field right he wont hit the stumps. Many other things ppl took shots at that are not true. As i said it is very easy to see the negative in something.

 

[barmyarmy]

Also I did not find any bad points in the game. ppl are saying that its annoying that the feilder hits the stumps every time....well i just learned if you actually field right he wont hit the stumps. Many other things ppl took shots at that are not true. As i said it is very easy to see the negative in something.

You don't consider it a problem that it's impossible to play a test match as you lose confidence for leaving and the computer scores at 10 an over?
I've yet to play a test where the computer has batted for more than 20 overs before getting all out.

 

[legend_master]

well I havent looked around for his criticism of the game...but I am sure he realizes it is quite difficult to program and get everything "perfect" as everyone would have hoped

heh, actually i think its pretty damn terrible that Codemasters could release such a product with the many flaws that it has, not just bugs, but inherent 'bad decisions' and blatant 'stuff-ups'. I think they really dropped the ball so to speak.

Cricket fans are quite forgiving, mostly, providing developers actually listen and provide what they want. It gets to a stage though where some 'oversights' can really make a game unplayable.

You are right though, i can certainly speak from experience about how hard it is to code a cricket game, but i can also see that if i can do what i have done single-handedly with a tiny budget in under 2 years then they really have no excuse whatsoever, given they have a huge team of professionals earning big money working on this full-time no less. I can only imagine what i could do with such resources :

Not only that, but they were just building on top of the previous (05) version, it wasn't even a game from scratch!!

 

[lazy_chesnut]

heh, actually i think its pretty damn terrible that Codemasters could release such a product with the many flaws that it has, not just bugs, but inherent 'bad decisions' and blatant 'stuff-ups'. I think they really dropped the ball so to speak.

Cricket fans are quite forgiving, mostly, providing developers actually listen and provide what they want. It gets to a stage though where some 'oversights' can really make a game unplayable.

You are right though, i can certainly speak from experience about how hard it is to code a cricket game, but i can also see that if i can do what i have done single-handedly with a tiny budget in under 2 years then they really have no excuse whatsoever, given they have a huge team of professionals earning big money working on this full-time no less. I can only imagine what i could do with such resources :

Not only that, but they were just building on top of the previous (05) version, it wasn't even a game from scratch!!

I'm sure also, Paul, that you should be able to appreciate how many things that they messed up really are quite simple. Lots of the things which are wrong with the game are quite simple programming aspects I'm sure.

For example:

All catches being the same difficulty. Just give each animation a "difficulty" rating and change the meter speed depending on that.

Throw speeds from the infield taking the same amount of time to get to the keeper as throws from the outfield - it must be quite badly coded for this to be able to happen, but you could still say "multiply throw time by distance from keeper" to fix it.

AI running between wickets - I could write the logic for that - runs are simply dependent on how long it will take the fielder to get to the ball, and distance fielder is away from stumps (if throw time is dependent on distance, which it currently is not)

Fielding chase algorithms - again, I could write the maths and logic for that.

It seems to me like so much went untested. I'm sure they base the batsman's decision to run on what I said above (as there's not really any other way to do it) but they've just got the numbers wrong as it has not been tested enough. Same with catching difficulty - easy to implement, but they just didn't think of it or couldn't be bothered.

I'm sure Paul will agree.

 

[AbBh]

i dont think it would take much effort on their part to fix the decrease in confidence by leaving the ball .If they had included a leave button it would be damn easy.

 

[lazy_chesnut]

i dont think it would take much effort on their part to fix the decrease in confidence by leaving the ball .If they had included a leave button it would be damn easy.

Yeah I forgot that one. That is just DEAD easy to fix.

 

[madmattg]

We could bitch and moan and say whats good and whats bad, it is human to do so.

If Azeem likes the game and considers it a challenge then great for him. To attack his views and reasoning is not what this community is about.

I would love to have found the challenge and realism that he is obviously feeling. Scoring 600+ in my first ODI on test level was very dissappointing to me. Bowling teams out for 27 runs was a killer.

But online play has made this game awsome in my mind.

Sorry to rant, but hey everyone has there views and this community should just accept them from other people and move on.

 

[lazy_chesnut]

We could bitch and moan and say whats good and whats bad, it is human to do so.

If Azeem likes the game and considers it a challenge then great for him. To attack his views and reasoning is not what this community is about.

I would love to have found the challenge and realism that he is obviously feeling. Scoring 600+ in my first ODI on test level was very dissappointing to me. Bowling teams out for 27 runs was a killer.

But online play has made this game awsome in my mind.

Sorry to rant, but hey everyone has there views and this community should just accept them from other people and move on.

I can't see that anyone has attacked his views, really. He did that that there was nothing wrong with the game, which is objectively incorrect.