ICC III and "disc read error"

[Owzat]

I bought a couple of PS2 games recently and both came up with the "disc read error" message. One of these games was ICC III which I sent back, not too worried as reading the instruction manual while I was bored and to see what new features were in it, I felt it was almost exactly the same as ICC 2000 and 2002! Other PS2 games I have work fine, as recent as BLIC 2007 and PES & FIFA 2008.

So can anyone tell me if ICC III is vastly different to old PSone versions of ICC. There don't seem to be any playing differences if the manual is anything to go by, of course the players are up to date, but I may as well have been reading an old instruction manual

And can anyone tell me if they're having similar error messages and what it is and can be done about it. I do wonder if it is because the PS2 is an older PS2 or to do with something else. It's only games bought in the last month that don't work.

Cheers

 

[Sureshot]

Could be worth cleaning your laser, if you've not got a cleaning disc do a google search on how to clean the laser.

ICCIII, is basically a updated version of the last game, with a more sophisticated 3D match engine. You have 'feature's like Hawkeye. If you can get it cheaply then fine, but I wouldn't go over £10 on it.

 

[shravi]

The hawkeye is ridiculously slow and obnoxiously inefficient.

 

[player786]

wait hasnt the ICCIII only on release for PC?

 

[Sureshot]

http://www.play.com/Search.aspx?sea...Captain+3&page=search&pa=search&go.x=0&go.y=0

PS2, PSP and PC.

I'm intrigued by that ICC4 pre-order option...

 

[Owzat]

Could be worth cleaning your laser, if you've not got a cleaning disc do a google search on how to clean the laser.

I saw one site with photo guidance on how to clean the laser, however I'm confused how an old disc can be fine and a new disc not. Surely it would be the other way around? And also see part of below reply

ICCIII, is basically a updated version of the last game, with a more sophisticated 3D match engine. You have 'feature's like Hawkeye. If you can get it cheaply then fine, but I wouldn't go over ?10 on it.

Considering the game didn't seem that different, and I've done without a tennis game forever on the PS2, I didn't want to take my PS2 apart for games I don't really need. I sometimes wonder why I bothered with PES3, PES4, PES5 etc and same for FIFA. It's all much of a muchness, I'm thinking I'd rather the PS2 works for my existing games than try and clean it so it doesn't work at all and I have to buy another PS2 or a PS3. I might as well wait until the games people stop doing PS2 games and then buy a PS3. The games I don't buy now like ICC III will cost a lot less or I can simply buy the latest version.

Anyone know why this is the first ICC on the PS2 anyway?

 

[Sureshot]

Can't answer that about the laser, don't know anything about them. My only thing would be maybe that older discs are somehow warn in, and now the laser is weaker maybe it struggles to break some kind of thin surface...

As for your 2nd question, I have no idea. Maybe they felt it was more marketable, rather than an update for people who have played the series before.

 

[Owzat]

I will have to try and take it apart and clean it, I put a couple of older PS2 and PSone games in last night to kill some time and they came up with the same error.

Thanks for all suggestions and taking the time to reply, I was just hoping I wouldn't have to take it apart.

Anyone having similar problems here's the link I found that runs you through taking your PS2 apart and cleaning the laser (with picture guidance). Might be a good site for other technical issues too.

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/hardware/ps2.ars

EDIT : I took it apart and cleaned it, then cleaned the discs themselves. The discs seem to be a part of the problem, that doesn't make sense given the two that didn't work were new. I even had to reclean an old PSone disc after it had worked and I tried it again. I'll probably do what I intended originally which is wait until I buy or am forced to buy a PS3, I've good enough cricket and football simulations, cricket and football management and other games to carry me through.

 

[Owzat]

I started a new job and talking to the bloke I work with he had similar problems. His solution? He stood the PS2 on it's end with the disc going in from the left and the reset button at the top facing you. I may give that a whirl, I thought anyone else having similar problems might appreciate this idea/solution.