Ireland-Test Status

[pcfan123]

Why don't they just add Ireland into the ECB, whats the difference, Wales is already in there.

 

[Iridium]

One game, as good as it may have been, isn't enough to constitute giving Ireland Test status. They need to prove that they can consistently compete against the current top teams and to do that they need more games, which associate countries are not getting right now.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

Why don't they just add Ireland into the ECB, whats the difference, Wales is already in there.

wales is in it because it's part of the united kingdom, ireland isn't (although, it's run similar to it's rugby team, as a united ireland, with the UK part of ireland as well)

but also in the UK scotland, ireland, england have their own sporting identities and generally want and like being seperate if they can, wales is just too small to survive on it's own so goes with the flow, it's not like there's much welsh representation on the ECB though, except the chairman of glamorgan if he's even welsh. unifying them wouldn't even be a last resort option.

 

[War]

^OK so one RECENT upset. And really it was only based on one insanely good innings by O'Brien. This doth not make a Test nation IMHO.

This. The same way Bangladesh beating Pakistan in the 1999 WC didn't make them ready for tests, the last 10 years shows that.

 

[ferg512]

I think Ireland should get to play some 4 day games or something against some A teams. They cant just keep playing Zimbabwe and Canada etc. I would like to see Ireland get test status not now but later on down the track possibly.

 

[PrimeOdysseus]

They totally deserves test status.

 

[CG123]

I know they tag onto a few England tours, but all teams that tour England should play a couple of ODIs against them.

Down the track I think they should get it, but right at this moment I don't think so.

The ICC could possibly say something along the lines of you'll get test status in four years if you so such and such, and that should help them keep a couple of players that could be considering a move to England to play test cricket.

A top order of this wouldn't be half bad:

Porterfield
Stirling
Joyce
N O'Brien
H Marshall (qualifies in April)
K O'Brien

And add Morgan to that list if he changes back or something.

And then in terms of bowling, you have the likes of Dockrell coming through, as well as Rankin who's only 26.

 

[AbhishekS]

Why shouldn't Ireland enjoy the test status! When teams like Bangladesh and New Zealand (the current team) have the liberty of playing the tests, then even Ireland deserves it.

We can rather have some qualifiers between a few teams, starting in September every year, ending in December to decide which teams will play tests in the coming year. The teams participating could be the 8th and 9th ranked sides (currently New Zealand and Bangladesh respectively) and two associate nations. Out of the four teams, two get qualified.

The only problem I see is that the FTP is prepared well before, so this idea practically seems impossible. Something similar to this would be ideal IMO.

 

[icyman]

You need to get your eyes checked and get some reading glasses.

BD got Test status immediately after World Cup 1999, when they won against Pakistan in their last group stage match.

What I meant by'they have been on a downward spiral' They have not been able to do much with their Test status, other than the fact that they play more matches than the Associates. ODI-yes, they can compete, but certainly not at the Test level.

I agree with Yudi as well. This is where a 2-Tier Test cricket system would help us. Top nations in the FTP- unfortunately someone will have to miss out. The second tier could consist of the lower rung Test teams along with a few Associates.

 

[PrimeOdysseus]

BD got Test status immediately after World Cup 1999, when they won against Pakistan in their last group stage match.

What I meant by'they have been on a downward spiral' They have not been able to do much with their Test status, other than the fact that they play more matches than the Associates. ODI-yes, they can compete, but certainly not at the Test level.

I agree with Yudi as well. This is where a 2-Tier Test cricket system would help us. Top nations in the FTP- unfortunately someone will have to miss out. The second tier could consist of the lower rung Test teams along with a few Associates.

2-Tier system would help a lot actually. and you could say 1-tier nation has to play against any 2-tier nation at least once 4-6 years. or 3-5 tests in 4-6 yrs. something like that

 

[War]

I know they tag onto a few England tours, but all teams that tour England should play a couple of ODIs against them.

Down the track I think they should get it, but right at this moment I don't think so.

The ICC could possibly say something along the lines of you'll get test status in four years if you so such and such, and that should help them keep a couple of players that could be considering a move to England to play test cricket.

A top order of this wouldn't be half bad:

Porterfield
Stirling
Joyce
N O'Brien
H Marshall (qualifies in April)
K O'Brien

And add Morgan to that list if he changes back or something.

And then in terms of bowling, you have the likes of Dockrell coming through, as well as Rankin who's only 26.

Not going to happen.

 

[CG123]

IF Ireland get test status sometime soon, you never know.

I agree it is unlikely, that's why I didn't put him in the original players I posted, and just put him down as a note underneath.

 

[War]

IF Ireland get test status sometime soon, you never know.

I agree it is unlikely, that's why I didn't put him in the original players I posted, and just put him down as a note underneath.

Even if Ireland did, Morgan is basically a shoe in (although he has some competition) to replace Collingwood @ # 6 in the test XI for ENG next test. Plus he is indispensable in the ODI/T20 set-up. So id expect the ECB, Strauss & Flower to do everything in their power to keep him from making such a u-turn in the future.

 

[angryangy]

The associates already play second-tier cricket. While it fills a key role, the fact that people don't know anything about it probably says a lot about the demand for it. What we don't see enough of is those sorts of teams playing against good domestic teams. There was an Irish tour of the West Indies last year that could be a prototypical 'minor tour'. They played Jamaica in T20, ListA and 3 day cricket. There was only one ODI, but they played other games against a 'West Indian XI' featuring international players. One could imagine a host fielding irregular teams like the England Lions, Australia A or the Board President's XI. They are the sorts of teams that while not being full-strength international sides, do nevertheless attract spectators and even broadcasters. The players would take valuable experience and the tour could have a due sense of importance without being overwhelmed by a sense of pretension.

 

[Dare]

BD got Test status immediately after World Cup 1999, when they won against Pakistan in their last group stage match.

What I meant by'they have been on a downward spiral' They have not been able to do much with their Test status, other than the fact that they play more matches than the Associates. ODI-yes, they can compete, but certainly not at the Test level.

I agree with Yudi as well. This is where a 2-Tier Test cricket system would help us. Top nations in the FTP- unfortunately someone will have to miss out. The second tier could consist of the lower rung Test teams along with a few Associates.

But they are a better side now then they were 12 years ago. They have a handful of young and exciting players who in a few years could be pushing Bangladesh closer to that top tier. All their players are being pushed into cricket at a young age and have to learn on the job.
They don't have a stacked team like India, England, Australia, South Africa. Those teams can throw in a youngster or two in a series and see them succeed because they have buffers like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman.
In a few years Shakib, Tamim and Rahim could be the big 3 of Bangladesh that are guiding the new generation of Bangladeshi cricketers and easing them into international cricket.