Left 4 Dead 2: Banned in Australia by Australian Classification Board

[MasterBlaster76]

No its really not, using a control pad is the proper way to play the likes of L4D and the CoD series. Seriously all you PC-aholics, they're made for emailing, msn'ing, foruming it up...oh and Football Manager, not FPS or other genres, get yourself an Xbox or PS3 and come into the modern world!

Sorry mate, but you're wrong. It's far more intuitive to look around with the mouse and once you've got used to WASD + mouse, you won't want to go back. As for PCs only being of use for management games, emailing and so on? That opinion's at least fifteen years out of date now...

Simbazz, if we were to have a duel of sorts - you using a controller, and me using mouse and keyboard, I would be extremely confident of victory. There's so much stuff you can just do so much faster with a keyboard - you can aim with precision, turn around in a flash and find decent cover anywhere. I'm a disgrace at Call of Duty on PS3, I find it incredibly hard to aim, where as if I had a mouse I would immediately just swivel, hit the spot in about 0.3 seconds and kill.

Well, that was a bit in-depth, but... mouse + keyboard > controller.

Exactly. I use mainly bolt action rifles on CoD 5, and it would be almost impossible using a clunky gamepad. Furthermore, I'd be very confident of destroying someone who was much better than me if I was on mouse/keyboard and they were on gamepad.

Agreed.

Gamespot has also agreed that Mouse+ Keyboard is better than controllers for FPS games and it's enough for a proof.

Also, whenever I've seen pro gamers playing CoD on TV, they always use a mouse/keyboard.

Not to argue, but controllers are MUCH MUCH better to play a game with than a mouse and keyboard.

Kids, you all need to grow up and realise this.

Sports games, maybe - and beat 'em ups, but not FPS games - never.

Different genres of games have different input methods which are considered best for gaming. It does also depend on personal taste. Surely controllers are much better than keyboards and mouse for Sports, Racing and maybe other genres. But Controllers > Keyboard and Mouse for FPS? You've got to be kidding me man. I grow 80 years and it doesn't make a difference.

Agreed.

Controllers for L4D2 (Keeping this badboy on topic) are far superior to the long outlived mouse/keyboard combination. A controller has the ease factor, all the buttons are in convenient locations whereas a keyboard has multiple keys which, in situations, you could press the wrong one and mess it right royally up!

Kshitiz, you have your opinions, but with the rate that console gaming is going (probably because of the piracy PC games have) it'll run over PC gaming in no time, theres hardly ANY games which are exclusive to PC gaming, except the likes of Football Manager etc. proving that console control pads are the way forward. People are paying money to get an Xbox 360 adaptor to use it on a PC.

Then they're wasting their money. The Xbox 360 is Windows controller of choice and works straight from the console to the PC. Also, PC gaming will be reborn - digitally. As to pressing the wrong button and messing up? Doesn't ever happen to me and I'm not the world's best gamer. If I want to throw a grenade, that's what happens - if I want to throw a flashbang, I get a flashbang - on PC at least. On consoles, I've often pressed the wrong button.

We were debating about the usability and comfort of controllers for FPS'. Dunno where that last para came into the debate my friend. No one is debating the general friendliness, success and ease of console gaming. We're just saying that Mouse and Keyboard > Controllers for FPS or for that matter even games like Vice City.

Keyboard has too many buttons but the general buttons that one uses in a FPS are WASD, and the two mouse clicks. And of course, anyone can set the other keys as an where they like.

Indeed.

 

[iridescentt]

How cheap did you get them?

Since I bought a lot of games in bulk from Singapore I was able to get them at $60 each. Which is around $50 per game in AU dollars. Dirt Cheap. Currently starting with Dynasty Warriors 6, half way through the game so far with my mate. Gonna' be an epic week at my place.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, everything went fine with the game and stuff. Didn't even care about them. They were more worried about the content on the other DVD discs.

 

[Cricketdude]

Since I bought a lot of games in bulk from Singapore I was able to get them at $60 each. Which is around $50 per game in AU dollars. Dirt Cheap. Currently starting with Dynasty Warriors 6, half way through the game so far with my mate. Gonna' be an epic week at my place.

that is okay, probably around the same price on ebay.

 

[blake]

Well - as some other people have said, the only games that I would prefer to use a controller for would be sports games - even then, a keyboard would be roughly similar, and one on one fighting games like Mortal Kombat, Virtua Fighter, etc.

Everything else, I would use keyboard and mouse for - no question.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

Well - as some other people have said, the only games that I would prefer to use a controller for would be sports games - even then, a keyboard would be roughly similar, and one on one fighting games like Mortal Kombat, Virtua Fighter, etc.

Everything else, I would use keyboard and mouse for - no question.

I couldn't imagine playing a sports game with a keyboard/mouse, ditto a driving game. Gamepads have their uses, even on PC.

 

[The_gas]

I play left 4 dead 2 with a few friends on steam. Absolutely love the game, we all have mics so we're pretty darned good at it. Love the ability to be able to talk freely in game. However, i can also understand what Blaster says about it being annoying with people talking all the time.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

I'll tell you what would be great fun - if people playing the game acted like they were really there (they'd have to be good actors of course). Not enough of my actor friends play the damn game though, so I can't test the theory. It'd make one hell of a youtube vid if there was a way to get everyone's voice in the video though. Also, the neighbours might get a little concerned about all the frenzied screaming... :laugh

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