Out or Not Out?

Out or Not Out?


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Griffo

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Ok this may be very difficult to explain but go with me here

I was on 20 when I attempted to play a square drive today and hit it into my foot it rolled back on the stumps the bail jumped up and landed link the diagram shows below

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I love that diagram SO CHEAP but is it Out or Not Out?

The umpires disagreed with each other on the ruling and I went on to make 61 not out in an innings of 219 but I would just like to find out what SHOULD of happened

Note: I did apoligise to the poor old bowler lol
 
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Thanks Hooper but I fixed the image
 
To be honest i didnt see it i was in too much pain from middling a drive into my bloody ankle but i imagine it rolled onto it
 
100% not out..bail has to fall off completely..

Not quite... The bail has to be dislodged...

If the bail left contact of the stumps at any point, then it is out...
eg : the bail jumps, and settles back on the stumps, then imo, you are out...
else, if the bail just shifts from the groove, then you may be not out...
 
Not quite... The bail has to be dislodged...

If the bail left contact of the stumps at any point, then it is out...
eg : the bail jumps, and settles back on the stumps, then imo, you are out...
else, if the bail just shifts from the groove, then you may be not out...

Exactly and if the umpires did not see this they cannot possibly give you out. Never ever heard of this happening before though :D
 
No but look at the way it landed there is evidence that it moved

and sorry about the question before i have no idea what happened (i thought you were talking about the ball)

there has to be a rule about this somewhere i just wanna know if I deserve my 61 not out today :p not bad for an opening bowler!!
 
The bail has to be fully dislodged. If it went up and landed back on, it should have been out.

However, since the umpires didn't know whether it had or not for sure, they did the right thing and gave it Not Out. Benefit to the batsman.
 
as far as i am aware..if the bail jumps in the airs and then settles back on the stumps you are NOT OUT..

it has happened many times in tests and ALWAYS not out..

the bails have to fall to the ground..
 
when you see a run out appeal which is refered to the 3rd umpire, what is considered?? the bail losing contact with the stumps, or the bails making contact with the ground??
 
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/cricket/explanation.htm said:
Bowled:
If the batsman misses the ball and it hits and breaks the wicket directly from the bowler's delivery. The batsman is out whether or not he is behind his popping crease. He is also out bowled if the ball breaks the wicket after deflecting from his bat or body. The batsman is not out if the wicket does not break.
Found this explanation. From what you say the ball didn't break the wicket which means not out as far as im concerned.

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You are not out Griffo;
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/cricket/explanation.htm#out said:
The wicket is said to be broken if one or both of the bails have been dislodged and fallen to the ground.
Go to the site then click ways of getting out and there it is. You are not out, you deserved that 61 not out.
 
Hmm im not to sure about it still but you seem confident matt
 

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