Cricketdude
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Also some of the pitches were slow and not coming to bat so they werent even considering hitting it hard in the first 15 instead the last 15(if wickets in hand).
Whats happening to aggressive batting in first 15 overs?
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Definetly global warming. Airs getting hotter meaning ball flys through the air slower puting the batsman off.
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Well if you basing it on CB series it definetly was dominated by the bowlers. Both teams have some class players.
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Well if you basing it on CB series it definetly was dominated by the bowlers. Both teams have some class players.
vaibhav mehta
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No Sid.check out Bangladesh vs South africa series.check africa's total in 20 oves for 3 match..it will be more than 300....lol.
RoboRocks
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The bowling is better in my opinion. Bowlers are much more skilled when batsmen start attacking in ODI's now and bowlers also use their skill effectively now such as a Brett Lee who has pace and accuracy or a Nathan Bracken who generally is every accurate and gets the ball to swing.
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I think more sides are at an intermediate stage with their top orders.
Australia had form woes this summer and the weariness of the side that but for only a couple of players had played pretty much clean through from the start of the season till March was rather telling. I still think there were good starts in amongst the rubbish ones, Gilly's hundred in Perth, not to mention his other scores were all seemingly against the grain. You only have to go back a year to see both Hayden and Gilchrist at their best. With Gilly gone and Hayden getting ever older, one would hope the team has toyed around enough to be very certain on replacing players from here on.
Up against that steadily tiring team were many of India's raw recruits. Gambhir did a fine job and his position seems well confirmed. Utilisation of either Yuvraj Singh or Robin Uthappa at the top of the order seems questionable, however. Nevertheless, on stronger batting pitches or perhaps against weaker bowling, one would expect many runs.
The third wheel from that series, Sri Lanka, are struggling to find the right second opener and are sweating at the thought of a replacement for Jayasuriya. Jayasuriya was in great form not all that long ago, though. Added to the top order woes, it seemed evident whenever Jayawardene came out to bat that they were not so confident of scoring runs if another wicket fell.
New Zealand recently made a big win in their rebuilding with the selection of Ryder, partnered with McCullum they trounced some hapless Englishmen. They had previously been struggling on tour, but at home the whole team seems to have improved a little. McCullum certainly seems to have grown an extra pair in the last year. Time will tell if the McCullum/Ryder partnership is volatile or one of the big ones for NZ.
NZ's current opponent, England wrote the book on average one-day cricket. In Alastair Cook they do have a quality opener, but one that still needs time to learn the one-day game, experience he can't really get in domestic cricket if he's on a Test tour. Under the Adam Gilchrist law, Cook's partner apparently has to be an aggressive wicketkeeper-batsman. It's obviously a position of great interest as England have employed six wicketkeepers in the past 3 years. On the whole, England don't have a lot of batsmen averaging over 35 in ODIs and Bell seems to be the only one of them who ever appears up there. The way they play, they practically have to lose early wickets or else Pietersen and Collingwood are just wasted.
South Africa seem unsure about whether they love quotas or not. Gibbs' poor form saw him dropped in favour of MacKenzie in the Test side, but in an apparent restoration of the racial quota, he is still in the mix. Suffice to say if players are only playing because of their skin, it is not good for the side, especially as their choices for no. 3 of late have been younger and not so attacking, even compared to Kallis. I think gun to their head, they'd admit Gibbs/Smith/Kallis is what they'd pick if they had to play the World Cup final tomorrow and it was certainly a combination that put the Windies through the grinder in their recent ODI series.
The West Indies are very ponderous about selecting a decent top order. Sarwan and Gayle's injuries haven't helped, but some of the players they're putting in to open are the worst players selected in the entire eleven. The Gayle/Chanderpaul opening partnership seemed the brightest period for the side in a long time, with Sarwan coming in behind them they really were sending in a powerful top order to do the damage. Alas the lack of Lara and the fear of a crumbling lower order has led them to weaken that stance.
Pakistan... are they still doing that thing where they use several different top orders for each series? Let's see...
Ind v Pak
1st: Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal, Younus Khan
2nd: Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal, Younus Khan
3rd: Salman Butt, Shahid Afridi, Younus Khan
4th: Salman Butt, Shoaib Malik, Younus Khan
5th: Salman Butt, Imran Nazir, Yasir Hameed
Pak v Zim
1st: Salman Butt, Nasir Jamshed, Younus Khan
2nd: Salman Butt, Nasir Jamshed, Younus Khan
3rd: Salman Butt, Nasir Jamshed, Younus Khan
4th: Nasir Jamshed, Khalid Latif, Shoaib Malik
5th: Nasir Jamshed, Khurram Mansoor, Younus Khan
I'll leave it at that.
Australia had form woes this summer and the weariness of the side that but for only a couple of players had played pretty much clean through from the start of the season till March was rather telling. I still think there were good starts in amongst the rubbish ones, Gilly's hundred in Perth, not to mention his other scores were all seemingly against the grain. You only have to go back a year to see both Hayden and Gilchrist at their best. With Gilly gone and Hayden getting ever older, one would hope the team has toyed around enough to be very certain on replacing players from here on.
Up against that steadily tiring team were many of India's raw recruits. Gambhir did a fine job and his position seems well confirmed. Utilisation of either Yuvraj Singh or Robin Uthappa at the top of the order seems questionable, however. Nevertheless, on stronger batting pitches or perhaps against weaker bowling, one would expect many runs.
The third wheel from that series, Sri Lanka, are struggling to find the right second opener and are sweating at the thought of a replacement for Jayasuriya. Jayasuriya was in great form not all that long ago, though. Added to the top order woes, it seemed evident whenever Jayawardene came out to bat that they were not so confident of scoring runs if another wicket fell.
New Zealand recently made a big win in their rebuilding with the selection of Ryder, partnered with McCullum they trounced some hapless Englishmen. They had previously been struggling on tour, but at home the whole team seems to have improved a little. McCullum certainly seems to have grown an extra pair in the last year. Time will tell if the McCullum/Ryder partnership is volatile or one of the big ones for NZ.
NZ's current opponent, England wrote the book on average one-day cricket. In Alastair Cook they do have a quality opener, but one that still needs time to learn the one-day game, experience he can't really get in domestic cricket if he's on a Test tour. Under the Adam Gilchrist law, Cook's partner apparently has to be an aggressive wicketkeeper-batsman. It's obviously a position of great interest as England have employed six wicketkeepers in the past 3 years. On the whole, England don't have a lot of batsmen averaging over 35 in ODIs and Bell seems to be the only one of them who ever appears up there. The way they play, they practically have to lose early wickets or else Pietersen and Collingwood are just wasted.
South Africa seem unsure about whether they love quotas or not. Gibbs' poor form saw him dropped in favour of MacKenzie in the Test side, but in an apparent restoration of the racial quota, he is still in the mix. Suffice to say if players are only playing because of their skin, it is not good for the side, especially as their choices for no. 3 of late have been younger and not so attacking, even compared to Kallis. I think gun to their head, they'd admit Gibbs/Smith/Kallis is what they'd pick if they had to play the World Cup final tomorrow and it was certainly a combination that put the Windies through the grinder in their recent ODI series.
The West Indies are very ponderous about selecting a decent top order. Sarwan and Gayle's injuries haven't helped, but some of the players they're putting in to open are the worst players selected in the entire eleven. The Gayle/Chanderpaul opening partnership seemed the brightest period for the side in a long time, with Sarwan coming in behind them they really were sending in a powerful top order to do the damage. Alas the lack of Lara and the fear of a crumbling lower order has led them to weaken that stance.
Pakistan... are they still doing that thing where they use several different top orders for each series? Let's see...
Ind v Pak
1st: Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal, Younus Khan
2nd: Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal, Younus Khan
3rd: Salman Butt, Shahid Afridi, Younus Khan
4th: Salman Butt, Shoaib Malik, Younus Khan
5th: Salman Butt, Imran Nazir, Yasir Hameed
Pak v Zim
1st: Salman Butt, Nasir Jamshed, Younus Khan
2nd: Salman Butt, Nasir Jamshed, Younus Khan
3rd: Salman Butt, Nasir Jamshed, Younus Khan
4th: Nasir Jamshed, Khalid Latif, Shoaib Malik
5th: Nasir Jamshed, Khurram Mansoor, Younus Khan
I'll leave it at that.
Pakistan_Jindab
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Yeh u right Angyangy.
