The PlanetCricket View: Where has it gone wrong for The Baggy Greens?

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It’s hard to not feel gutted as a supporter having witnessed the innings defeat against India, in Hyderabad.
The loss puts them 2-0 up in the series and it’s been concerning as to how things played out in what will be regarded as a walk over for the opposition.

I have never felt the need to bad mouth the team or resort to overly critical analysis. If anything I find it far more important to support the boys as much as possible during these tougher situations.
However, it is only right to look at a few points of concern that lead into this game and what was witnessed in a game where our batsmen put up little fight.

Where has it gone wrong for The Baggy Greens in the Border-Gavaskar series thus far?

It would seem the selectors got it wrong, notably on two points.
Firstly, dropping Nathan Lyon was a step backwards and secondly, debuting Glenn Maxwell to play alongside Moises Henriques was a costly mistake. The rest was not about the selectors but rather our batsmen.

It was a big mistake to drop Nathan Lyon and bring in Xavier Doherty. In fact, it may have been okay to bring Doherty in but not at the expense of Lyon. It is simply another step back and we may very while find another spinners confidence has been damaged.

Jason Krejza grabbed an 8 wicket haul against India in 2008 on his debut. Despite going for plenty of runs he managed to get us wickets, something Shane Warne states he’d rather see than simply having spinners be economical and not claim wickets, vital wickets at that.

The thing is that after a poor Test against the Proteas at the WACA, he was axed and it was the end of the road for Jason as a medium-to-long term spin bowler. Krejza is now regarded as a State spinner at best.
We have also had a showcase of spinners given the debut at quick expense or given a mixed run; Bryce McGain, Beau Casson, Dan Cullen, Michael Beer (injured) and Nathan Hauritz, who did a good enough job.
Then there’s been the part-time spin trial of Marcus North, Steven Smith and Cameron White.

We don’t want to add Nathan Lyon to that list.

He’s had one Test in India and can’t be to blame. Yes, during the summer his lack of effectiveness was costly against the Proteas but it’s still early days and I didn’t see the need to drop him after the 1st Test.
If anything it would have been far more logical to play him and Doherty together. Another Test in the subcontinent could have only been good for his development. It was a step back as India moved forward.

The effort to improve our spin bowling doesn’t rest so much with the technical dynamics of things but rather the management of the bowlers in Australia and the purpose as to why we select a spinner post-Warne. It’s a topic best left to the professionals to debate and find a solution for.

Debuting Maxwell as a part-time spinner was another blunder. Not so much based on Glenn himself, but the fact we had two all-rounders and one spin bowler, having seen India’s effectiveness with three spin bowlers.

Remember the Cameron White experiment? It was an absolute failure and as hard as Cameron White tried as the part-time spinner given the massive task of serious leg spin bowling contributions. it was all odds against him. Not his fault, but rather a selection blunder.

Maxwell managed 4 wickets for the match, 1 more than Doherty but it wasn’t the point. Maxwell didn’t give a significant contribution with the bat and as it was for Cameron White, the selectors simply asked way too much of him. It wasn’t fair on his part, but I guess it will go down as experience in his books for development. It was also too difficult to debut him at the expense of Moises Henriques, even if Doherty and Lyon played as the two spinners in the starting XI.

Based on Henriques’ performance in the 1st Test it would be hard to have dropped him to play Maxwell unless it was purely to have a third spin options, but what’s done is done. The selectors should not try that move again as the previous incident in 2008 with Cameron White should have been a warning sign.

Having not learnt anything after the 1st Test in terms of using the spinners, the fast bowlers had too much work to do and the intensity proved to be way too much. Their pace could not be maintained and there wasn’t regularly a serious pose of threat. India’s batting was also brilliant in terms of how they paced things to get set. Excellent to say the least.

This is also not to put weight of blame on the shoulders of the spinners. It wasn’t the case. The biggest problems is that the batsmen simply didn’t get enough runs and our bowlers were exposed, especially the weaknesses of the bowling unit.

Experience is lacking in this side. I must say that although it is too hard to even predict if it would have made a difference had Mitchell Johnson been in the side, but it is that extra player with experience in the subcontinent that Michael Clarke could use. The issue still lay with the poor batting in the 1st innings which gave India a licence to attack once the lead was in place. Our bowlers were exposed.

The batsmen will know all too well about the problems but how they address over the next few days – which Michael Clarke has declared as “no rest” – will not be an easy task.

Clarke can’t keep being the go-to-guy and the time has come for him to move up the order.
It’s been needed for a long time and it’s well known that your best batsman should not be batting at number 5. It seems the time is now to give Clarkey the push. Sure, his prolific run has been splendid at number 5 but the team needs the move and Clarke is that kind of a guy to do what is best for the side.

This still won’t solve the issues of panic and thoughtless application to tackle the spin and build an innings. We’ve seen starts from the batsmen but they don’t go on, with the exception of Clarke who continues to be amazing to watch. Even when he’s made a good score, Clarke has been short on batting partners and has criticised himself when getting out. He’s seen some bigger scores go sailing on by and his lack of support from his batting mates directly influences this. David Warner, Ed Cowan, Shane Watson and Matt Wade can all handle these conditions, I hope they have the self-belief as well because Clarke needs it. We need it.

The weakest link, Phillip Hughes, should be given another go – dropping not always the answer – but his lack of handling spin is a massive, massive worry. Usman Khawaja not an instant remedy and no evidence is there that he will miraculously be able to keep the Indian bowlers at bay. There is a chance though he will be trialled and tested.

Simply dropping guys is not a solution to the problems we face. Team unity is needed and if after a period of assessment, the majority of our batsmen have been able to improve while a few others get left behind, then it is time to resort to dropping. Hughes is an excellent batsman but the mental strength just seems to go when he puts on the white gear.

Reality is that the last two Tests have to be won in order to keep the Border-Gavaskar Trophy in our possession.

Based on this, and my continued belief that our batsmen are good enough to put better runs on the board collectively, I will continue to support the boys as we look ahead to the 3rd Test.
They need the support as much as ever and while I am upset and can understand many supporters are livid at the performances thus far, the series is not lost and any chances of improvement now with the build up to the Ashes must be taken.

On a final note to instil some kind of positivity, keep in mind we thumped India 4-0 in Australia during the summer of 2011/12.

This is Test cricket in India and they will always be tough to beat and the nature of the contest is harsh in their conditions. The same as it was for them against us during the home series against them.
We have a team lacking experience in the sub-continent and the experience of Michael Clarke has proven to be invaluable. It shows the importance of it and this is a huge but mean learning curve.

Sadly, patience for application against a tricky spin setup – not extraordinary – has lacked.
It will indeed take serious focus and determination to turn things around for the guys. Michael Clarke is a man who shows serious responsibility. If he says they will not rest, they won’t.
However, it’s going to be hard work so best wishes to the boys as they prepare for another big clash with the series at stake.

Spare a thought for my mates who have traveled to India for this series. A bit bleak a result. India is good for traveling though I believe, so no shortage of ways to uplift oneself, especially with Waving The Flag.


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Owzat

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Bit hard to find the quality of Warne, Gilchrist and McGrath all at the same time. It was inevitable, and that's not even mentioning other key players that made it work.

Ashes 2001 Aussies (career stats)

Slater : 5312 runs @ 42.84
Hayden : 8625 runs @ 50.74
Ponting : 13378 runs @ 51.85
Waugh, M. : 8029 runs @ 41.82
Waugh, S. : 10927 runs @ 51.06
Martyn : 4406 runs @ 46.38
Gilchrist (wk) : 5570 runs @ 47.61
Warne : 3154 runs @ 17.33 & 708 wkts @ 25.42
Lee : 1451 runs @ 20.15 & 310 wkts @ 30.82
Gillespie : 1218 runs @ 18.74 & 259 wkts @ 26.14
McGrath : 641 runs @ 7.37 & 563 wkts @ 21.64

Why pick that Aussie series/side? Pretty much a strong XI, the key bowling attack and strong batting. The point is to compare with a current side and show how much difference Gilchrist, Warne and McGrath alone made.

South Africa series 2011/12 Aussies (career stats)

Watson : 2558 runs @ 36.03 & 62 wkts @ 30.06
Hughes : 1330 runs @ 33.25
Khawaja : 263 runs @ 29.22
Ponting : 13378 runs @ 51.85
Clarke : 7257 runs @ 52.97
Hussey, M. : 6235 runs @ 51.53
Haddin (wk) : 2257 runs @ 35.83
Johnson : 1403 runs @ 22.63 & 205 wkts @ 30.64
Harris : 212 runs @ 17.67 & 47 wkts @ 23.64
Siddle : 674 runs @ 14.65 & 143 wkts @ 29.25
Lyon : 192 runs @ 12.80 & 65 wkts @ 33.94

There is an overall dip in batting quality, three of the 2001 Aussie top six averaging 50+ and the other three averaging 41-46 whereas the 11/12 Aussie top six has three averaging 50+ and the rest 29-36.

The keepers are no contest, Gilchrist averaging 10+ runs more than half of the batsman let alone Haddin. Lyon is nothing compared to Warne with bat or ball, and McGrath was just phenomenal. Back then there were plenty of Aussie bowlers and batsman who would have walked into most sides, probably would walk into the current Aussie side, but couldn't get a look in then.
 
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sifter132

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^Pretty much sums it up right there. Only Clarke and Hussey would make that team of 10 years ago - in place of Martyn and M.Waugh probably. Clarke on current form definitely, Hussey would be arguable vs Marto or Junior for that last spot.

There's just a big talent hole in Aussie cricket, particularly in batsmen. There has been precisely 1 good Australian batsmen born in the 80s: Clarke. Other than that the selectors are relying on guys like Warner, Hughes, Khawaja to develop quickly to cover that gaping hole where no one has developed. When Australia needed to be finding good young batsmen 5 years ago, they were recycling Simon Katich, Phil Jaques and Brad Hodge, or clinging on to Hayden, or playing Cameron White as a spinner, or playing Andrew Symonds to sell extra tickets. It's why Ponting and Hussey had a free run through some pretty poor form. There was just no young guy putting his hand up: guys like Shaun March, Callum Fergsuon, Luke Pomersbach, George Bailey or Mark Cosgrove were just treading water with various problems.
 

Owzat

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If Warne, McGrath and Gilchrist were available to pick now then Australia would be able to cope, like the West Indies when Walsh and Ambrose retired they are now a shell of their former self with no quality bowlers coming through and the batsmen below par also.

Funny how that works, two decades of dominance and then little coming through. Anderson has now taken more wickets than Botham, Botham had to face a whitewash capable West Indies sides and a decent Australian side while Anderson faces a nothing West Indies side and got his backside kicked the only time he faced a decent Australian side : L0-5 in 06/07 when he took five wickets at 82.60 .

And even though the aussies are poor he still averages 38.54 against them, his lowest average against any of the aussies, India, South Africa and Sri Lanka is 29.72 against India, and that's largely down to the Indians' poor showing last time in England when he took 21 wickets at 25.71. Aside from that series he averages 32.06 against them.

In fact I'd suggest most sides are at a low ebb at the moment, back in the late 80s and early 90s we had a dominant West Indies, Australia poised to take over the mantle, Sri Lanka came of age towards the end of that era, India were a strong home force, South Africa were about to return and Pakistan were a very good side as well. Even the kiwis were capable.

Now the West Indies are keeping just ahead of the likes of Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, maybe a little behind the Kiwis. Australia have hit hard times, Sri Lanka have now lost Muralitharan and Vaas, and much of their strength, the Indians are in transition while only South Africa and surprisingly England are taking advantage. Pakistan are in a bad way too, perhaps hit by noone wanting to play in Pakistan for safety reasons (rightly so)

You'd have thought T20 would have raised the profile and popularity of the sport, or maybe it just leads to weaker stock coming through into the herd. Maybe the reason England fell apart in New Zealand this 1st Test is because they play the same way, but on this pitch they didn't get away with it.

Despite all this there is still more chance of Australia winning another World Cup than England. I think the number seven is the key reason, we use four bowlers in Tests and that works, but in ODIs every bowler is important and you can't afford the off days England have too often.
 

War

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Simple. The selectors.
 

sifter132

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^Maybe the lack of off-field discipline too? A coach who acts like a school teacher?

It's a right your own punchline question at the moment. :(

I just hope the group itself is feeling strong because 2 losses and apparently the world is ending according to the fans and the media.
 

War

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I'm sure the great AUS team had off-field problems, but we never heard about it. When you are losing these little irrelevant things rise to the surface.

But don't bury your head in the sand uncle Sifter, its all about the selectors. AUS still have the right talent in older & younger players to be solid across all formats. Just that the correct balance has not been picked.

Being a selector is special skill in cricket, its a art that most cricket fans under-rate esepcially when your team is not an all-time great team when it becomes obvious who your best XI is.

This abc.com.au article from 2011 once more resonates well: It's time to take the Australian cricket team back - The Drum - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
 

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