Wicket or not

[Since74]

Hi all - my first post on here, so take it easy on me

My 10 year old son bowled his frist overs for his district team yesterday ( left arm leg spin ) and very proud I was too.

I think he took a wicket but I am unsure of the rules.

He bowled, the batsman got an edge whcih the wicket keeper stopped and them stumped the batsman, does that count as a stumping or a run out ?

Thanks

 

[manee]

I believe it depends whether the batsman was attempting a run.

 

[Insomniac]

It's a stumping, unless he was attempting to make a run - and even if he was attempting a run, if he was trying to get back, then its still a stumping.

It would be a run out if the batsmen left his crease and was trying to get to the other end, and had no intentions of going back.

More than likely in this scenario he was given out stumped.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Runout. Always. Stumped is only when he has missed the ball and is out of his crease. If it comes off his bat or pad, it is runout.


Happened in a WI vs. Pak match. Younis Khan deflected Gayle I think down, the keeper Courtney Browne stopped it, and whipped off the bails with Younis out of his crease. Given runout.

 

[JD10]

was was it givin ?

 

[Insomniac]

Runout. Always. Stumped is only when he has missed the ball and is out of his crease. If it comes off his bat or pad, it is runout.


Happened in a WI vs. Pak match. Younis Khan deflected Gayle I think down, the keeper Courtney Browne stopped it, and whipped off the bails with Younis out of his crease. Given runout.

Interesting, because in that same series, Abdul Razzaq hit the ball onto his boot, and then Courtney Browne came up the stumps and took the bails off.

Actually, looking at it again, Razzaq edged the ball (clear deflection) and Browne dropped the catch (standing up), but he had the presence of mind to whip the bails off, and he was given out stumped.

Bradshaw was the bowler.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

The ump could have possibly made an error there? Cause as I understand it, stumped is when you have left your crease to play the ball and have missed it, and runout is when you've hit it and are out going for a run?

Anyone have a copy of the official ICC rulebook?

 

[Arunava]

Confusion is when there is scoring of byes, which is unofficial though. Since Byes are considered run, how can one say that hitting the bat will only be the criteria for run outs.

As far as I know stumping is possible only when the wicketkeeper is standing up, and batsmen misses the ball. everything else is run out.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Thats why I believe if the striking bastman is runout at the striker end without having taken any runs while trying for a bye, it is a stumping.

Like he plays and misses at a fast bowler, but tries for a bye. His partner sends him back, but by the time he's back, the keeper has removed the bails. I'd assume that was a stumping.

 

[age of the fall]

You said the batsmen got an edge that the keeper stopped, thats caught behind, unless im missing something.

 

[Dr. Pepper]

You said the batsmen got an edge that the keeper stopped, thats caught behind, unless im missing something.

The Keeper stopped it, not caught it.

 

[Sureshot]

Thats why I believe if the striking bastman is runout at the striker end without having taken any runs while trying for a bye, it is a stumping.

Like he plays and misses at a fast bowler, but tries for a bye. His partner sends him back, but by the time he's back, the keeper has removed the bails. I'd assume that was a stumping.

That would be a run-out, as he was attempting a run. If the said batsman danced down the wicket, got an edge and the keeper stopped it and whipped the bails off. It would be out stumped.

Attempting a run = Runout
Out of crease playing shot = Stumped

The key words are attempting a run. It should be easy to work out from those words what the mode of dismissal is.

 

[Since74]

Thanks for your inputs, the batsman was not trying for a run, just came forward, nicked it , the ball rolled to the wickie, who then whipped the bails off.

 

[Griffo]

Stumping, no doubt

 

[lightbulb]

Stumping-a bit like the way Ponting did Geraint Jones in the 3rd Ashes Test in 2006.