a physiological question

[barmyarmy]

has anyone heared of russian ice killing?
in it, ice is stuffed into the throat of unconsious victim.the victim dies of suffocation, and ice melts in about 1hr.
no trace, a natural death...

Yup. It's also used by the Deltas in the Dan Brown book "Deception Point".

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Exactly. Read it there. Not bad actually...

 

[ste_mc_efc]

has anyone heared of russian ice killing?
in it, ice is stuffed into the throat of unconsious victim.the victim dies of suffocation, and ice melts in about 1hr.
no trace, a natural death...

but if the ice melts wont the water seep down the throat into the lungs so it looks like drowning? and if your nowhere near water it'd look suspicous

 

[Adarsh]

Hmm, possibly Ste. Have you guys actually thought that one of us could be planning a murder and will be getting handy hints from here.........maybe it's just me.

 

[rickyp]

i was actually thinking that adarsh! interesting topic though, really got me thinking, Ive always wondered whether I could kill someone and get away with it (lol im a freak, too much CSI has left me thinking how to beat them) and I have come to the conclusion that killing them by making them listen to duff tell jokes is the best way (soz duff, first name that came to my head)

 

[blackleopard92]

but if the ice melts wont the water seep down the throat into the lungs so it looks like drowning? and if your nowhere near water it'd look suspicous

no, because ice melts.
hence it would look like that the person choked on snow.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

but when ice melts it becomes water, so what happens to the water? i'd assume it go into the lungs (but im no expert) and if the person isnt old, a post morterm would be done because natural death isnt common in younger people, that would find the water in the lungs, and depending on the location it migth be odd for someone to "drown" (if though they didnt drown, it'd look like they did

or does something else happen to the water?

 

[ZoraxDoom]

It could evaporate...
Or go down to the stomach, or just stay there...

 

[ste_mc_efc]

i dont tihnk its go to the stomach, if you fill your mouth with water and lean your head back but DONT swallow it falls down you throat, and because it makes you cough im guessing that it goes down your wind pipe (some may come out of your nose though and it feels horrible so im not saying do it)

 

[barmyarmy]

Let's try. Any volunteers?

 

[Simbazz]

Ill do it! Nah, and about this water thing, there is many a thing which people can die off with suffocation naturally, the body can drow the lungs naturally in a state of shock!

 

[Sureshot]

Explain that a bit more Simbazz.

You sometimes get build up of fluid in the lungs and die if it's not extracted but it#s not through shock.

 

[blackleopard92]

lol people.
one thing, when someone drowns, the water enters their lungs.as the body loses control of muscles, then those who are responsible for stopping things to go into lungs also relax.
2nd, this method is used in russia, with half of it covered in snow.also, if someone dies naturally, snow is bound to enter his body.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

lol people.
one thing, when someone drowns, the water enters their lungs.as the body loses control of muscles, then those who are responsible for stopping things to go into lungs also relax.
2nd, this method is used in russia, with half of it covered in snow.also, if someone dies naturally, snow is bound to enter his body.

i knew that, but if i tried that method in a the middle of a playing field or a park, it'd look suspicious, its a great method in certain places though

 

[blackleopard92]

i knew that, but if i tried that method in a the middle of a playing field or a park, it'd look suspicious, its a great method in certain places though

obviously.