@blockerdave @Langeveldt
Just wondering how you guys skill players? Because I'm hearing they're all overskilled. Is there a system? E.g. player who averages 50+ is rated 90, player who averages 40+ is rated 85.
There are a lot of ways going back to DB17. I think
@wasteyouryouth has a system he uses not too dissimilar from many of us 'retro creators'
My tip for batting is to take the first class batting average and the test average and get then get the average of those.
Multiply by 1.8 to be exact or 2 to make it easier and then you have an overall batting base to work with. Someone with a fc class average of 52 but a test average of 32 would at the very leastt average will come out at 42 for starters.
Then multiplied by 2 at the most means his batting rating would start at 84. I fiddle with sliders according to research so long as overall the player batting rating..not the overall..is 84.This is not a strict rule sometimes I just know what player should be because I've played the game long enough now.
Also modern Cricket batting and bowling averages may be slightly inflated compared to old school players so you have to make a judgement call on where to draw the line. However it is good to keep a spreadsheet of similar players, so that you have some sort of consistency. Then tweak ratings according to sources you use. Books, videos web etc.
In addition to this I also have a simple scale of 0 to 10. 1 is All Time Worst. 2 is very poor, 3 is poor, 4 is below average, 5 is average, 6 above average, 7 good, 8 very good, 9 excellent and 10 All Time Great. This way can be quicker.
For example, Joe Root.
Joe Root's combined batting Test and First Class Average is 48. 48 x 2 = 96. So 96 is where I would start. Though Root's career average could drop and when comparing his rating with others whose career's are completed. So in this case I would adjust.
Alternatively or in addition, Joe Root is clearly an excellent player across all formats, so he will be a 9 or somewhere between 9 and 10. Or if you are using multiples of 10 a 90. I would then go to batting ratings.
Some of his ratings are adjusted based on research, but so long as Joe's batting rating is around the 90-95 overall mark, then hes good to go. In this case, I'd keep him at 90 as his averages are slightly inflated due to the era he is batting in.
For bowling I take their bowling average and subtract it from 110. So a bowler with a 30 combined test and fc average for bowling would come out as a base figure of 80 overall for bowling. I then use my 1 to 10 scale and ask is this player an 8 out of 10 or 80 out of 100? When compared to the average professional cricketer?
Let's take All Time Great, Dennis Lillee. His test and FC bowling average is 23. In my formula he would come out as an 87 for bowling. 110 - 23 = 87.
I will then tweak his bars, someone like Dennis will have a Pace Master Gold. I would then look at research to determine his Silver and Bronze. It's possible I would give him a bump in rating depending who I measure him against on my spreadsheet. In this case I would probably bump Dennis up as he lost some years to injury and also Kerry Packer World Series when he was at his peak, playing against other peak players. I'd more likely bump him to 92-94, maybe higher, depending on bench-marking with other pace greats with a similar bowling personality.
So combining the two rating systems work for me and I get very realistic results and averages and strike rates, when playing the game. Always remember to do the research, it can be subtle. There will always be anomalies and it's purely subjective. Research on cricinfo or the cricketer archive or books of course help.
The Gold Perks are good especially as it kind of identifies how the players abilities and confidence are raised or lowers depending on the type of match being played, test, 1 day or t20. The silvers and the bronze do similar and put a bit more flesh on that player will use his skill.
To keep things simple in my universe and I have created over a 1000 players on this version alone I download additional players from mostly the retro crowd.
They are
@blockerdave @gleeso73 @DalePlaysCricket @relaxedanderson and
@Spoobir.
For modern players
@wasteyouryouth. Lately he has playfaced and rated more retro players so hes another goto.
This way I can compare their creations with mine and over the last few years they are rating players overall similar to mine but our methods might be different.
@wasteyouryouth did a project last year I think on Ashes all about this and there was something similar on DB17.
Hope this helps or points you in the right direction.
