Do we really Need ODI format of cricket?

[Aalay]

Test cricket is the best form of cricket but I like ODI's. ODI's are even better then T20.

 

[Owzat]

Scrapping ODIs is a stupid idea to say the least. It would be akin to scrapping the FA Cup because it has replays and the League Cup doesn't

The World Cup has been a fantastic tournament for getting on 40 years (next tournament), 50 overs is a good length because it allows for greater tactics and sides can recover whereas T20 any idiot can bowl and there is little scope to recover because you have to score at a high pace.

If anything I would have thought competitions like IPL would have diminished calls for scrapping ODIs, it is a long monotonous tournament that is boring and frankly most people I know don't bother with it. It's a typical hyped monster that is to cricket what Big Brother, the Apprentice, Strictly Come Dancing and all the other carp on TV is to proper TV.

I suppose at least we've moved on from people suggesting Test cricket is dead and we scrap that. All three formats can exist IF the ICC stop bowing to demands of s*y and other broadcasters, and the Test nations, and redress the cricket being played in its volume and competition formats.

Tests - there is too much so we need to tier the 'championship', it is just a question of time before this is recognised ahead of $$$$$ and objections of nations wishing to maintain the status quo. Once it is tiered and the likes of Ireland, Holland and Canada are in then it can only improve the standing of the sport

ODIs - maybe scrap head to head series in favour of triangular tournaments. World Cup as is, format as is. I do not know why people keep harping on about the middle overs as being "boring", there is plenty in cricket that is "boring" including 300+ totals in shorter formats, boundary after boundary, and no real contest between bat and ball. I wonder if people who constantly call for changes sit and play their cricket simulations in slog mode...................... Maybe instead of banning the 'switch hit' we should ban the 'leave' and forward defensive shot. Maybe we can also ban the dot ball, play tip and run. Or let's make it like glorified rounders (baseball) and have three strikes and you're out.


T20Is - only tournaments of 3+ sides, maybe each country play in just one a year outside of a regular World Cup so you might have a quadrangular with England, West Indies, Pakistan and New Zealand and a triangular with Australia, South Africa and India, with the other countries participating with others (even say Holland and Scotland)

 

[Ahmad94]

People saying T20 to be scrapped. It is the only decent watchable game for me. ODI and Test take whole day and I have no time after, just to watch a lot of defensive strokes

 

[sifter132]

Yeah that's fine - everyone likes their own format. Do you prefer international T20 or franchise T20 like IPL??

 

[Fenil]

People saying T20 to be scrapped. It is the only decent watchable game for me. ODI and Test take whole day and I have no time after, just to watch a lot of defensive strokes

I prefer to watch (and play) longer versions of the game as it has some contest between bat and ball. Bowlers too have their chance to keep their show in the middle unlike in T20s which is so batting friendly version that bowlers, more often than not, seem like their job is just to ball like a bowling machine so that the batsmen can try and smash them out of the park.

 

[Epic]

I personally enjoy all the 3 formats and wouldn't want to see any of them go.

But if I had to choose one it would have to be the shortest format, T20. (Only from International cricket though) I mainly say this because it has no real history as of now and getting rid of the One Day format would be like pissing on the faces of all those cricketers who thought they achieved something when they lifted the World Cup trophy.

 

[Bevab]

T20's are just an attempt to recreate some football style shorter games.

 

[Gaurav_7]

We do need it. I enjoy T20 WC. That's the only competition which should be in place as far as T20 is concerned. ODIs are a must tbh. One Day WC is so exciting! But, the bi-lateral series can now be limited to a max 3 matches.

 

[Ahmad94]

Yeah that's fine - everyone likes their own format. Do you prefer international T20 or franchise T20 like IPL??

Personally, International. Not in to IPL

 

[Epic]

Personally, International. Not in to IPL

That's why you support KKR?

 

[SaiSrini]

Frankly quite ticked to see guys like Manjrekar support the removal of ODI's from cricket. Constant tinkering with the rules of the game doesn't mean that ODI's are in danger. They are somehow trying to address the complicated issue of the "middle overs" of ODI cricket. Even with the middle overs existing, ODI cricket is still a lot more fun than a T20 match. ODI offers more usage of skills than T20's and yet ODI has been the eternal "crowd puller" format in cricket history.

This article offers a very interesting suggestion. Scrap bilateral ODI series and force countries to create multi-team ODI competitions only (i.e. triangular, quadrangular, etc). I agree with it. Bilateral ODI series lead to overkill of ODI cricket, and multi-team tournaments have always been more exciting.

Manjrekar, Ian Chappell and Bhogle on ODI cricket

 

[War]

Frankly quite ticked to see guys like Manjrekar support the removal of ODI's from cricket. Constant tinkering with the rules of the game doesn't mean that ODI's are in danger. They are somehow trying to address the complicated issue of the "middle overs" of ODI cricket. Even with the middle overs existing, ODI cricket is still a lot more fun than a T20 match. ODI offers more usage of skills than T20's and yet ODI has been the eternal "crowd puller" format in cricket history.

This article offers a very interesting suggestion. Scrap bilateral ODI series and force countries to create multi-team ODI competitions only (i.e. triangular, quadrangular, etc). I agree with it. Bilateral ODI series lead to overkill of ODI cricket, and multi-team tournaments have always been more exciting.

Manjrekar, Ian Chappell and Bhogle on ODI cricket

Yea the constant tweaking of the rules is just an example of poor administrate and lack a cricket nous at the ICC administrative level.

I for have always believed that the talk of the "middle-overs being boring" was always exaggerated and the changing from the first 15-overs rule should never have been done.

I do agree with the potential scrapping of bilateral ODI series and have more multi-team tournaments. Thats a fair idea indeed.

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Nah, all three formats can exists. Just a simple situation of smart scheduling in which 7 match and 5-match odi series are scrapped and at least 3 t20's are played over a series instead of many 1 off t20's which tends to threat the game as exhibition.

Every international series should then have a minimum of 3 tets, 3 odi's and 3 t20's and everything will be perfect. Only the Ashes, England vs S Africa and maybe aus vs ind and ind vs pakistan could have more tests because of the obvious historical significance of those series.

But again as most problems with world cricket, the problem horribly weak ICC is the reason why their is even a debate about this.

They have a corrupt board in the BCCI dictating things to them and they have implemented the IPL and along with cricket australia and the saffies board - created the champions league, which has clustered up the international calendar.

This disparity was horribly showed when the ICC announced its FTP scheduled for 2012 - 2020 in which the ipl was given an unofficial window and the champions league and official window. Madness.

ICC news: More Tests for major countries in FTP 2012-20 draft | Cricket News | Cricinfo ICC Site | ESPN Cricinfo

Test cricket is the pinnacle and t20's is third best format in terms of the standard of cricket although it is the cash cow that can potentially get more countries involved in the game.

Therefore the IPL needs to be revamped into a more international league and only when this happens should it get a window and the champions league should be scrapped.

Such an revamped IPL and the T20 international world-cup every two years, is all the t20 cricket we would need.


Test championship really isn't needed also and although the influence TV companies has on sports in general is fairly big, i for once agree with them for making the ICC scrap that idea for next year and bringing back the champions trophy.

All those weak idea's along all the constant changing of the rules in ODIs (they should have never moved away from the first15-overs restriction) because of some crazy belief that the middle-overs of odi's were too boring - is also another example of the poor administrative structure in the ICC.

England in New Zealand 2012-13: Test cricket returns to Auckland's Eden Park | Cricket News | New Zealand v England | ESPN Cricinfo

This NZ vs ENG series schedule is how most international tours should be. 3 Tests, 3 Odi's and 3 T20s. Thats the best balance.

 

[puddleduck]

I could happily see ODI cricket phased out, but I appreciate that it has its fans.

My issue is what people use as arguments for it. By this I mean I often see people suggest ODI cricket is more tactical/allows people to build innings etc when compared to 20-20 cricket. That it offers bang for the buck and a chance to see explosive cricket when compared to Test Cricket.

For me, it's a middle ground between the two extremes that in reality offers little of either.

 

[Phen]

There is no need to get rid of any of them and it get's on my nerves with all the rule changes the ICC make and the constant "need for change", like War said, 3-3-3 is the best format for every series with maybe one or two exceptions such as the Ashes and the battle for top four teams where you would add a few more tests.

The ODI WC has so much history, it's better tactically ie bowlers are trying to get wickets and all the batsmen don't have to be able to hit sixes. (The amount of sixes these days has taken the excitement out of them, now it takes a really massive one to get me excited). If you call ODI's boring, you must hate test matches surely?

 

[puddleduck]

The best reason to get rid of ODI cricket is people growing up thinking it's the ultimate test of technique and application mixed with dashing shot making