mukund_nadkarni
Club Cricketer
Well, why was my post deleted?!! This is really disappointing, but the guy also writes articles for Planetcricket!
Hayden Vs Sehwag
- Thread starter Precambrian
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I think it is fair to say that everyone is scared when Viru comes out to bat, including the Indian fans...
I also LOVE how my statistical analysis is ignored by the only two people debating in this thread as it proves them both wrong...
I also LOVE how my statistical analysis is ignored by the only two people debating in this thread as it proves them both wrong...
If you read the reason on it it's because it was quoting something I don't want repeated while we decide what action to take against the member in question.
aussie_ben91
School Cricketer
Maybe because we had bowlers like Andy Bichel and Brad Williams playing? Have you even heard of them?Load of crap.
Sehwag's stats
Hayden's stats
Sehwag would have blasted Warne as other subcontinental batsmen have done in the past.
Against McGrath, we never knew. I have good reason to believe he'd have smashed McGrath also considering he is now at his peak.
And is Australia such a terrible team that without McGrath and Warne, anyone can average near 60 against them?
Fail.
And Sehwag a subcontinent bully? Lolz. He has a bad average only in NZ (where he played only 2 tests, and too on pathetic pitches), and England (still better than Hayden's) and SA. And Hayden too has a bad record in all these places.
Sehwag scores at much better rate than Hayden also.
You want to make a fair comparison? Let's check out their stats after both had played 50 Tests each.
Cricinfo Statsguru - ML Hayden - Test matches - Batting analysis
Cricinfo Statsguru - V Sehwag - Test matches - Batting analysis
Hayden averaged 7 more runs then Sehwag.
Sehwag = Subcontient track bully
Hayden = Legend
mukund_nadkarni
Club Cricketer
That's fine. I saw the original post was still there, while mine was moderated, so I had to ask. I hope you'll take note of it, that was very disturbing to read here on PC.
King Pietersen
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I think it is fair to say that everyone is scared when Viru comes out to bat, including the Indian fans...
I also LOVE how my statistical analysis is ignored by the only two people debating in this thread as it proves them both wrong...
I ignored it because you were comparing statistics between players, one of which has played far more games than the other. Find the stat's from Hayden's career after he'd played the same amount of games as Sehwag and you'll have a much fairer comparison. As far as I'm concerned Hayden's far ahead, he also played a good portion of his career in an era against better fast bowlers, facing guys like Pollock (at his best), Donald, Waqar, Wasim, Ambrose, Walsh etc etc etc.
30 Test Hundreds, opening the batting in every Test innings, a consistent average above 50, Hayden's one of the greats of the generation, and Sehwag will not go down in the same league.
Fair point. Viru still has a few years left, lets see how he goes.
My point still stands though - Viru has higher highs and lower lows than Hayden. Hayden has more consistency, and is a better converter. Viru scores quicker. They both struggled against the moving ball, but while Hayden can grind it out, Viru will be hit or miss. They both cash in on flat pitches/poor bowling, but Viru does so better than Hayden. Both are excellent players of spin. Both did the same jobs for their team. Neither should be considered better than the others.
But in the name of fairness, let Viru have a few more seasons. Then compare.
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My point still stands though - Viru has higher highs and lower lows than Hayden. Hayden has more consistency, and is a better converter. Viru scores quicker. They both struggled against the moving ball, but while Hayden can grind it out, Viru will be hit or miss. They both cash in on flat pitches/poor bowling, but Viru does so better than Hayden. Both are excellent players of spin. Both did the same jobs for their team. Neither should be considered better than the others.
But in the name of fairness, let Viru have a few more seasons. Then compare.
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As the English media says about Adil Rashid, it isn't a matter of If, but of When...
mukund_nadkarni
Club Cricketer
Fair enough. But personally, I think a player should be judged by his successes than failures. Hayden has been superb for Australia, but when Sehwag has got going he's been absolutely unstoppable. I'd rate Sehwag ahead simply because he is extremely unique, one of a kind.
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Precambrian
International Cricketer
Doesn't speak well of Australia.
Another statistical deception
Ignore minnows (Zimbawe and Bangladesh). Ignore the Supertest (farcical), and here are the cumulative averages.
Sehwag's cumulative averages
Hayden's cumulative averages
And the average at the end of 50 proper tests?
Sehwag - 53.58
Hayden - 52.44
No,
Sehwag = Real Bully
Hayden - Minnow basher.
To moderators : Thanks for swift action on Ben.
King Cricket
International Coach
I have voted for Sehwag. Although i think that Haydos in his golden days was the best hardhitting batsman of the world.
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