Pakistan and Australia in the UAE August-September 2012

Doodlesweaver

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Pakistan v Australia 2012: Australia name Glenn Maxwell for Pakistan series | Cricket News | Pakistan v Australia | ESPN Cricinfo



Well firstly its great that the selectors have noticed Maxwell's performances as i've called for and picked him for the T20 team, while also recalling White.

Would like to know exactly whats up with Mitchell Marsh ATM. He should be a must pick in the T20 squad for the world cup.

With Lee retired, i think the T20 attack could do with the experience of Bollinger of Nannes as the left-arm quick instead of Starc and Harris instead of Hilfenhaus.

Disappointed that Finch and Birt couldn't make the T20 team. Essentially Bailey illegitimate presence is keeping them out. I won't be happy if that is the final 15-man squad that goes to the T20 W-Cup.

Although as Inverarity said, the ODI squad is being used as a developmental. Unless Johnson and Smith do something big in this series - they need to be banished. Doherty also need a good series after looking VERY ordinary in England.

Marsh might be in the doghouse for getting sent home from the Academy. But he wasn't a first pick for the T20 squad anyway if Watson is fit. All though I've got to say that, apart from his fielding, Christian epitomises the ordinariness of our players now.

I don't particularly like Hilfy in either squad but they seem intent on using him in short formats. He's never done much in ODI's so I don't understand why they'd stick with him for that format at least.

If Pakistan pack their team with spin bowlers, things could get a bit nasty. I've laughed quite a lot in the past two years or so watching newish Aussie batsmen tie themselves in knots against decent spin.

Wade and at times Bailey in England were just the latest examples.
 

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Sent home?. What did he do?

Also i would say Watson, Christian and M Marsh should all be in the ODI/T20 teams.
 

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Nice to see Maxwell making the side, he'll be more useful than Smith at 7 and his off spin is handy enough. Smith is a strange one, if there is a format he should be picked in, it is T20 not ODIs. About time Ferguson made the side too.
 

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Seems Australia are solving their ODI batting issues by naming all-rounders...not cool. There's only 5 specialist bowlers in their 15 man squad, so it's a good chance we'll see Christian or Smith or Maxwell at #8 in order to get some better scores. I think it's COMPLETELY WRONG. Get better in the top 5 and big scores will come.

Nice to see Ferguson back, and interesting to see this article about Phil Hughes today:
Pakistan v Australia 2012: One day, Phillip Hughes will get his chance | Australia Cricket Features | ESPN Cricinfo I've mentioned a couple of times that ODIs would be a great place to try Hughes out and get his confidence up against international quality attacks. But for some reason the selectors chose Peter Forrest, a guy with a much worse limited overs record and less potential for greatness. Oh well, it's just as good that Hughes gets some county stuff under his belt. But he's one to keep in mind for future, even if we do have a lot of guys who play at the top.

I don't particularly like Hilfy in either squad but they seem intent on using him in short formats. He's never done much in ODI's so I don't understand why they'd stick with him for that format at least.

I think England showed that good quality, Test match style bowling in the early overs might be the answer. Who's in the Aussie Test attack? Cummins, Pattinson, Siddle, Hilfy, Harris. Siddle's not really a short form guy. Harris is too old. So now that Lee is gone, I think you really need Hilfenhaus + whoever of Cummins/Patto is fit to provide some Test match style quality in those first 10 overs.
 

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Forrest was definitely the preparation for Test cricket, he now gone from being in the T20 and ODI sides to drop completely. Hughes is probably next in line as no one else is standing out atm.
 

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Glad some pakistani players got recalls, should help mature the team for the World Cup
 

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Sent home?. What did he do?

Also i would say Watson, Christian and M Marsh should all be in the ODI/T20 teams.

Turned up to the COE (---- I hate that name) not fit enough - which is a bit harsh as he only started bowling a few weeks ago due to recovery from injury - then went out on the tiles one night and was 'unfit' to train the next day.

I've read this online, it might just be a made-up story, but apparently Nathan Coulter-Nile was in the same state.

They have been selected for the Sri Lankan T20 comp so perhaps were celebrating getting some extra pay cheques for 2012?
 

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I think England showed that good quality, Test match style bowling in the early overs might be the answer. Who's in the Aussie Test attack? Cummins, Pattinson, Siddle, Hilfy, Harris. Siddle's not really a short form guy. Harris is too old. So now that Lee is gone, I think you really need Hilfenhaus + whoever of Cummins/Patto is fit to provide some Test match style quality in those first 10 overs.

Agree with the idea in principle, especially the two new-balls being around. But i don't believe should be given the responsibility in ODIs.

Hilfy was never a natural ODI bowler, Siddle was more so. Its just that Inverarity wants as he once said:

Australia news: Selectors want Peter Siddle as Test-only for now | Australia Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

This to me is weird, because i actually think Hilfy should be the test only bowler.

Harris maybe old, but i keep thinking that the more test cricket he plays the less cricket he will be able to play in the future, due his knee situation.

If Harris does like Malinga and Shane Bond and gives up test cricket, i think he could be the limited overs spearhead between now and the 2015 world cup.

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Turned up to the COE (---- I hate that name) not fit enough - which is a bit harsh as he only started bowling a few weeks ago due to recovery from injury - then went out on the tiles one night and was 'unfit' to train the next day.

I've read this online, it might just be a made-up story, but apparently Nathan Coulter-Nile was in the same state.

They have been selected for the Sri Lankan T20 comp so perhaps were celebrating getting some extra pay cheques for 2012?

Hmm confusing stuff.
 
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sifter132

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Agree with the idea in principle, especially the two new-balls being around. But i don't believe should be given the responsibility in ODIs.

Hilfy was never a natural ODI bowler, Siddle was more so. Its just that Inverarity wants as he once said:

Australia news: Selectors want Peter Siddle as Test-only for now | Australia Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

This to me is weird, because i actually think Hilfy should be the test only bowler.

Harris maybe old, but i keep thinking that the more test cricket he plays the less cricket he will be able to play in the future, due his knee situation.

If Harris does like Malinga and Shane Bond and gives up test cricket, i think he could be the limited overs spearhead between now and the 2015 world cup.

Harris + Cummins/Patto would be better, aye. But gosh, you wouldn't want to bet on Harris being a consistent performer for the next 3 years. Hard working guy, but his knees are shot.

And I'm not sure Siddle is any better suited for short form stuff than Hilfy. Has a better yorker, but he bowls a very smackable ball does our Pete. Just has the wrong trajectory and length. Over time he may get more skilled, but it's an interesting puzzle. Maybe Ben Laughlin is our man after all :lol
 

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Harris + Cummins/Patto would be better, aye. But gosh, you wouldn't want to bet on Harris being a consistent performer for the next 3 years. Hard working guy, but his knees are shot.

Well the more tests cricket he plays, he could collapse anytime much less three years. His knee's are just as bad as Malinga really.

As we both know after the debacle of 2010/11 Ashes, Harris was our only good bowler and became the spearhead, given how piss poor the likes of Hilfy, Siddle, Johnson and Bollinger were. Essentially the bowling sticks looked woeful.

But ever since that Sri Lanka tour last year, we have had the emergence of Cummins, Pattinson, Starc - plus the re-emergence of Siddle and Hilfy. Thus i think the test attack doesn't need Harris as much as before.

So it makes no sense to force him to play test IMO. I could possibly tolerate him playing test until the Ashes next year maybe - but afterwards he needs to become a ODI specialist.

Lee, Bond and Akhtar at 35 lead their attacks to the recent world cups, bowling at good pace. Take away the strain of test cricket for Harris and i can see him doing a similar role for AUS in 2015.

And I'm not sure Siddle is any better suited for short form stuff than Hilfy. Has a better yorker, but he bowls a very smackable ball does our Pete. Just has the wrong trajectory and length. Over time he may get more skilled, but it's an interesting puzzle. Maybe Ben Laughlin is our man after all :lol

Yea the yorker stuff with Siddle is it. Added to the his revival, i think i would have gave Siddle a chance to see if he could improve his ODI record before Hily. But they went for Hilfy with average results so far.
 

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It's going to be a tough series and some well deserved players playing for Pakistan such as, Imran Nazir and Kamran Akmal! Also it's good there's no tests, there too boring.
 

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It's going to be a tough series and some well deserved players playing for Pakistan such as, Imran Nazir and Kamran Akmal! Also it's good there's no tests, there too boring.

yes i r also wanting the many sixers from the boom boom afridi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be afridi be very afridi!!!!!!!!!
 

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It's going to be a tough series and some well deserved players playing for Pakistan such as, Imran Nazir and Kamran Akmal! Also it's good there's no tests, there too boring.

Imran Nazir will be playing in the Sri Lanka league and test match are class, why do you say it's boring?
 

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Test waste too much time and who would watch just a cricket test match for 5 days, you get me? Sometimes it is enjoyable but that only happen a few times!
 

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