Should the Champions Trophy be scrapped?

[IloveGilly]

They should make it every 4 years so that every 2 years there is a big event. It still adds a little extra into the game other than tours.

 

[tassietiger]

Dont think Australia would send an 'A' team. They haven't won the trophy yet in its history.

But it doesn't seem to bother them too much. It's not like they have been talking the tournament up at all. The only time I've heard it mentioned we have been talking it down.

Not saying we shouldn't send our best team, just saying that they probably won't.

 

[icyman]

Well personally i dont see why it should be totally scrapped.
I think what Gilchrist & Botham are saying is that the current one is causing problems.True,it is.
Look at the gap between the ICC Champions Trophy & the ICC Cricket World Cup.The main reason for the ICC to continue is that they can earn more bucks or rather mega-bucks with the next two Champs Trophies to be held in the sub-continent.
A Twenty-20 World Cup would be okay.India is showing too much arrogance on this front.I'm all for the Champions Trophy to be held mid-way between the Two Cricket World Cups.i.e a Four-year event.
And if at all they have to play the Champions Trophy,they should make it only the Top 8 teams only.
I really don't understand the logic behind the round-robin format for the current Champions Trophy when it is clear that if you have a round robin,Sri Lanka and the West Indies will sail through with ease.

 

[HARMISON!]

World Cup every 4 years, with the ICC Champions Trophy in tandem every 4 years,(i.e 2007 WC, 2009 ICC) but taking place in places where cricket is weak, like U.S.A or Nambia or somewhere like that.

 

[andrew_nixon]

World Cup every 4 years, with the ICC Trophy in tandem every 4 years,(i.e 2007 WC, 2009 ICC) but taking place in places where cricket is weak, like U.S.A or Nambia or somewhere like that.

The ICC Trophy already takes place in the minor cricketing countries. Last years was in Ireland, the 2001 tournament was in Canada, in 2009 it's in the UAE, 2013 is in Scotland. We're talking about the ICC Champions Trophy.

I wouldn't put the ICC Champions Trophy in the non test countries. Having the Under 19 World Cup in the minor countries is one of the best ideas the ICC have come up with recently, although I'd like to see the Twenty20 World Cup take place in those countries in future.

 

[BigCrickNan]

The ICC Trophy already takes place in the minor cricketing countries. Last years was in Ireland, the 2001 tournament was in Canada, in 2009 it's in the UAE, 2013 is in Scotland. We're talking about the ICC Champions Trophy.

I wouldn't put the ICC Champions Trophy in the non test countries. Having the Under 19 World Cup in the minor countries is one of the best ideas the ICC have come up with recently, although I'd like to see the Twenty20 World Cup take place in those countries in future.

I think he meant the ICC Champions Trophy but didn't put champions..

 

[sohum]

Ahh, the Champions Trophy. By the time the ICC decide to scrap it, it will probably be out of the fixture list anyway.

 

[andrew_nixon]

I think he meant the ICC Champions Trophy but didn't put champions..

When people talk about the ICC Champions Trophy, they shouldn't say ICC Trophy. The ICC Trophy is a completely different (and probably much more important) tournament. People getting the two mixed up is a particular bugbear of mine. Even commentators on TV call the Champions Trophy the ICC Trophy, and they really should know better.

 

[icyman]

When people talk about the ICC Champions Trophy, they shouldn't say ICC Trophy. The ICC Trophy is a completely different (and probably much more important) tournament. People getting the two mixed up is a particular bugbear of mine.

And exactly how many ppl know the difference ?
Walk into any layman and he'd aturally say that the ICC Champions Trophy =ICC Trophy.
Anyways its not a matter of debate

Even commentators on TV call the Champions Trophy the ICC Trophy, and they really should know better.

Well,thats cause they get paid to do so...

 

[sohum]

Well,thats cause they get paid to do so...

Well, it's more because commentators these days don't know half of what they are talking about. Anyone could be a commentator these days, and I could probably do a better job than many of them.

Now, ICC Champions Trophy -> ICC Trophy is not necessarily a natural transition. I don't know my soccer/football, but does there not exist two separate tournies, UEFA Champions Trophy and UEFA Cup? The only point I can carp on Andrew is that this thread was about the Champions Trophy, so one could give the poster the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Cricketville]

The Champions Trophy should stay. If anything deserves scrapping, its the Twenty20 World Cup. Face it, the only countries to have had a good run with the format are England and perhaps SA. It isnt a regular fixture anywhere else.

 

[andrew_nixon]

The Champions Trophy should stay. If anything deserves scrapping, its the Twenty20 World Cup. Face it, the only countries to have had a good run with the format are England and perhaps SA. It isnt a regular fixture anywhere else.

Apart from Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and from next month, the West Indies.

Nah, no one other than England and South Africa.

 

[Cricketville]

Apart from Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and from next month, the West Indies.

Nah, no one other than England and South Africa.

Yes, one whole season! My, thats a lot of experience to be already calling for it to replace a good tight One day tournament.

 

[andrew_nixon]

Yes, one whole season! My, thats a lot of experience to be already calling for it to replace a good tight One day tournament.

Pakistan and Sri Lanka have had two seasons with it, three by the time the first tournament comes round. Australia and New Zealand will have had two tournaments by that time.

And no they're not already talking about replacing the Champions Trophy. They're going to look at that in 2010, after we've had two more tournaments of each. They'll then decide wether to scrap the Twenty20 World Cup, or scrap the Champions Trophy, or alternate between them.

And to desribe the Champions Trophy as a good tight tournament is just a joke.

 

[AusRule]

Pakistan and Sri Lanka have had two seasons with it, three by the time the first tournament comes round. Australia and New Zealand will have had two tournaments by that time.

And no they're not already talking about replacing the Champions Trophy. They're going to look at that in 2010, after we've had two more tournaments of each. They'll then decide wether to scrap the Twenty20 World Cup, or scrap the Champions Trophy, or alternate between them.

And to desribe the Champions Trophy as a good tight tournament is just a joke.

well the aussie twenty20 comp. we had last season was a joke each team played a team once in their group (their was 2 groups) then the teams who were on top of the groups played each other in a final which all together was 7 matches so it was more of a experiment then a tournament :