Stopping India from Topping ICC charts is impossible! What do you think?

[King Pietersen]

Jaques
Katich
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
A number 6 batsman (Voges, McDonald, Watson, an Australian could fill this one in)
Haddin
Johnson
Lee
Siddle
Clark

In everywhere but India they'd beat India I think. India don't have a good enough seam attack to better either South Africa or Australia. Zaheer and Ishant are good bowlers, but Harbhajan struggles outside India, and there's no world class 3rd seamer. Neither Zaheer or Ishant average under 30 either, both Steyn and Ntini average under 30 for South Africa.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Bhajji sucks. Yes. Don't know why he is still in.

But I think Zaheer, Ishant and Sreesanth could give Siddle/Clark/Lee a run for their money.

India clearly have the edge in batting too, and with Mishra and Viru, a stronger spin attack.

 

[King Pietersen]

I disagree.

Batting:

Katich > Sehwag
Jaques = Gambhir
Ponting > Dravid
Tendulkar > Clarke
Hussey > Laxman
Haddin > Dhoni

Bowling:

Clark > Ishant
Zaheer > Lee
Siddle and Johnson > Sreesanth

 

[MS Dhoni]

I disagree.

Batting:

Katich > Sehwag
Jaques = Gambhir
Ponting > Dravid
Tendulkar > Clarke
Hussey > Laxman
Haddin > Dhoni

Bowling:

Clark > Ishant
Zaheer > Lee
Siddle and Johnson > Sreesanth

So, lost in other thread and started posting useless comments here now?

So funny comparison.
Katich > Sehwag? Katich is is best compared to Raina rather than Sehwag. Sehwag is compared to Sachin and Katich is nothing. Katich just knows how to bother other batsman who is playing really good innings and then get trashed by the batsman embarresing yourself. Didn't you see how Gauti cursed him out? The whole Indian team is better than Australian side. Australia just depended on Girchrist, Shane Warne, and Mcgrath. Without them, Australia is nothing and i mean NOTHING! Australia barely won the match against New Zealand so forget about India.

 

[King Cricket]

Dan, I'll disagree a bit.

1. Johnsin > Sree but Sree < Siddle
2. Lee > Zaheer
3. MSD >>> Haddin
4. Katich < Sehwag

 

[Jaztheman]

Ah. Nothing like a good bit of bias shown on a Saturday evening is there, MS Dhoni?

The whole Indian team is better than Australian side.

Sig worthy.

 

[King Cricket]

Ah. Nothing like a good bit of bias shown on a Saturday evening is there, MS Dhoni?



Sig worthy.

One Dhoni shouting for another Dhoni, simple

 

[Highlander999]

So, lost in other thread and started posting useless comments here now?

I would guess he is trying to avoid you....

Sehwag is compared to Sachin and Katich is nothing.

Say's who?

Katich just knows how to bother other batsman who is playing really good innings and then get trashed by the batsman embarresing yourself.

You obviously didn't see any recent innings by him.

Didn't you see how Gauti cursed him out? The whole Indian team is better than Australian side

Says you in your bias opinion. According to the ICC rankings (which you liked so much in the other thread) Australia are still better than India.

Australia just depended on Girchrist, Shane Warne, and Mcgrath.

True, they did rely on them hevily in the past, but they still have quality players, just their bowling is a bit weak.

Australia is nothing and i mean NOTHING!

Once again, in your bias opinion.

Please grow up, stop seeing India as the best at everything, it's now how it is in the real world.

 

[King Cricket]

Say's who?

Says the great MSD, wonder which MSD :hpraise :confused: Although I think Sehwag is quite better than Katich as well. Two triples and everything. But MSD's post was too much.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

I disagree.

Batting:

Katich > Sehwag
Jaques = Gambhir
Ponting > Dravid
Tendulkar > Clarke
Hussey > Laxman
Haddin > Dhoni

Bowling:

Clark > Ishant
Zaheer > Lee
Siddle and Johnson > Sreesanth

Firstly - one on ones kinda suck. A team works together.

Opening batting pair - Has to be India. Easily
Middle order - Close. If we are going with a full-strength, full-form Aussie side, we should do the same for India. Tendulkar, Dravid, MSD, and Laxman vs. Haddin, Clarke, Punter and Hussey. India should win this one really.
Seam bowling - Australia win. It's close though. Siddle hasn't fully convinced me, but Clark, Lee and Johnson on song are enough.
Spin bowling - India
Fielding - Aus

3 to India, 2 to Aus. India secure both batting and spin, Aus get quick bowling and fielding.

 

[King Cricket]

Firstly - one on ones kinda suck. A team works together.

Opening batting pair - Has to be India. Easily
Middle order - Close. If we are going with a full-strength, full-form Aussie side, we should do the same for India. Tendulkar, Dravid, MSD, and Laxman vs. Haddin, Clarke, Punter and Hussey. India should win this one really.
Seam bowling - Australia win. It's close though. Siddle hasn't fully convinced me, but Clark, Lee and Johnson on song are enough.
Spin bowling - India
Fielding - Aus

3 to India, 2 to Aus. India secure both batting and spin, Aus get quick bowling and fielding.

Our two main weak-links are the lack of a decent third seamer and the off-form of the Wall. Otherwise, ATM India=Australia but < SA

 

[Chetan0304]

India haven't proven a level of consistency outside the Subcontinent yet, and hence, South Africa are the better side. Until India win consistent series away from home they'll not be the best.

BUT the win in sub-continent region is much counted in Stats isn't it?? do playing in sub-continent is that easy? if Yes why the hell your team with the God's in it fail poorly and was white wash? overall indirectly it comes out you saying Sub- c is a easy ground to play. maybe a batting surface region but we dont select your team to tour India it's your ECB or something .

 

[manee]

I disagree.

Batting:

Katich > Sehwag
Jaques = Gambhir
Ponting > Dravid
Tendulkar > Clarke
Hussey > Laxman
Haddin > Dhoni

Bowling:

Clark > Ishant
Zaheer > Lee
Siddle and Johnson > Sreesanth

Oh my!

Batting:

Katich < Sehwag
Jaques < Gambhir
Ponting > Dravid
Tendulkar > Clarke
Hussey > Laxman
Haddin = Dhoni

Bowling:

Clark > Ishant
Zaheer > Lee
Siddle and Johnson < Mishra and Harbhajan

Much better:cool:.

 

[mukund_nadkarni]

But I would love to face SAF now. And I'm pretty sure we would beat them on any pitch. Im Damn sure.

Would absolutely love an SAF vs India contest straight away. At the moment SAF is very good side and so is India. A notch below SAF maybe, but very good nevertheless. Personally I think India's biggest strength is their captain Dhoni. India is about flair and creativity, SAF about grit and determination, not that these are mutually exclusive to either team. That would be a fascinating contest.

We need to get past the Kiwis first though!:P

 

[King Pietersen]

Firstly - one on ones kinda suck. A team works together.

Opening batting pair - Has to be India. Easily
Middle order - Close. If we are going with a full-strength, full-form Aussie side, we should do the same for India. Tendulkar, Dravid, MSD, and Laxman vs. Haddin, Clarke, Punter and Hussey. India should win this one really.
Seam bowling - Australia win. It's close though. Siddle hasn't fully convinced me, but Clark, Lee and Johnson on song are enough.
Spin bowling - India
Fielding - Aus

3 to India, 2 to Aus. India secure both batting and spin, Aus get quick bowling and fielding.

I'm sure if the one on ones were in India's favour you wouldn't be saying that

Australia's batting > India's overall. Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Katich, Jaques and Haddin are all top batsmen, and although the Indian's are good, I'd take the Australian batting line-up ahead of them.

The seam bowling isn't close, Australia's seam attack is far better. Neither Zaheer or Ishant average under 30, Zaheer averages 34. Whereas Lee's the worst of the proven Aussie seamers and he averages 30. Clark averages 22, Johnson 28 and Siddle averages 31 but has only played 4 games. Siddle took 4 wickets in a Test against India, then took 12 in 2 Tests against South Africa after only picking up 1 in Perth. I'd say he's far better than Sreesanth.

Spin bowling is in India's favour, but Harbhajan's got a poor away record, and then Mishra either does brilliantly or does nothing. Australia have Bryce McGain who has a FC average of 33, which in Australia is very respectable, so he's not too far off Mishra tbh, so it's closer than you think. Away from India Harbhajan and Mishra could struggle.

Then fielding is comfortably Australia's, by quite a distance.

So personally I'd say a full strength Australian side is stronger than India's. They've got a stronger batting and bowling unit in conditions away from the subcontinent and the fielding is far better. India have a stronger spin attack, and a stronger wicket-keeper, although I rate Haddin's batting ahead of Dhoni's in Test cricket.