The Future of Twenty20 Leagues

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10 team leagues, promotion and relegation. If everyone played each other twice that'd be 18 matches.
With an already crowded international calendar, there's no appetite for such a league. It will lead to a massive dilution of the game.

Tests will exist while the players still want to play that form, but there will be no one watching.
Only a handful of countries.
A 16 team International Super League featuring all the Test teams and a few others would generate more money for each individual nation than their own Franchise league and the money could then flow into other forms.
How? I still think it is preposterous to suggest a league here. Money can't flow in by merely playing T20s
 

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With an already crowded international calendar, there's no appetite for such a league. It will lead to a massive dilution of the game.
Well, no because the calendar has been monopolised by the IPL and now other franchise leagues. 10-15 years ago, a league like this could have been implemented. Just because it's unlikely doesn't mean we can't imagine a more interesting or better cricket structure.
 

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If T20 cricket is so popular why is the T20 world cup so short and so poorly run?
Maximise your stars earning potential, the ICC is useless.
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At least have a 10 team T20 world cup with the same structure as the ODI World Cup.
 

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If teams like New Zealand, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh, all went on strike and said no international cricket until a new Super League is formed and therefore a more equal share of the pie it might change
All the players will still be employed in franchise leagues anyway.
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Makes sense for teams like South Africa and Sri Lanka to just go on strike until the ICC makes international cricket viable.
 

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The future of T20 league is simple and to be honest not many would like this opinion of mine.

Scrap all T20 leagues and start fresh. Let IPL owners and few other business tycoons own the teams. Also only allow T20 leagues in growing market and not same old traditional markets. Have a 4 international players in XI rule mandatory (Scrap the ILT20).

Limit the number of days a league can run to a max of 30.

IPL is already 2 months and becomes boring, PSL is close to 40 and eventually people will lose interest. 20-30 days is perfect for a league.

Have more double headers to complete the league.

Keep ticket prices low to attract more people to the stadium.

Build better quality stadium with good infrastructure (India, I am looking at you).

Good quality pitches.

Central contract owned by Franchise owners so same players play for all their different franchise.
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If T20 cricket is so popular why is the T20 world cup so short and so poorly run?
Maximise your stars earning potential, the ICC is useless.
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At least have a 10 team T20 world cup with the same structure as the ODI World Cup.
There is no evidence in what you are saying. T20 WC was not poorly run, fans had a blast and was fun to watch. ICC does not have enough money to "Maximise their stars earning"
 

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Why does the ICC have no money? Not enough International matches being watched? Simple, play more.

No one watches Afghanistan play Ireland in a 5 match T20 series, but if it was part of a World Cup people would watch it.
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International Cricket is the future of T20 cricket, not Franchise Cricket.
IPL teams buying up all the bankrupt leagues is a waste of money.

Did anyone watch the new South African T20 league? Buying teams in a league no one watches is a waste of time.
No one in the US watches cricket, how is buying those teams good business sense.
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IPL stars playing 4 franchise tournaments a year is an Indian pipe dream and not even India will watch it.
 

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Why does the ICC have no money? Not enough International matches being watched? Simple, play more.
Nobody cares about the meaningless international matches. The talent gap is so huge that one sided matches make no sense and hence nobody is watching. Playing more is not going to solve it, its only going to make it worse.
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Did anyone watch the new South African T20 league? Buying teams in a league no one watches is a waste of time.
Six of the 33 matches were sold out – including the final at the Wanderers – with 74% of tickets sold across all matches.
In South Africa, the tournament was the most watched sporting event on average on SuperSport Premium during the period, with a cumulative viewership of 8.96 million.
Female viewers made up 46% of that audience.
The SA20 was broadcast to seven different territories through SuperSport in Sub-Saharan Africa, Viacom 18 in India, Sky Sports in the UK, Fox Sports in Australasia, Etisalat in the UAE, and to the rest of the world via ICC TV.
India reported five billion viewing time minutes, 131 million people reached and 104 million digital video views.
 

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People care more about the IPL than international cricket?
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That pretty much sums this site up.

If it is the same players contracted to the same franchises in every league isn't it just just the same tournament 4 times a year, and if Indians own all the teams isn't it 4 IPLs?
 

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So the dream is IPL teams owning every International Player and each player playing for the same Franchise in every tournament around the World.
Will Pakistanis be employed at any of these Franchises?
Surely we will tire of the same league being replayed in every country with the same Franchise in every league.
 

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People care more about the IPL than international cricket?
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That pretty much sums this site up.
Ya right generalize when given facts. Nobody is saying we need less international cricket, I am saying you thinking nobody watches SAT20 or MLC is a given false.
 

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If you want Kohli to test his skills against Pakistanis in a Franchise league just let them back into the IPL, you don't have to play it in the UAE or the US.
 

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So the dream is IPL teams owning every International Player and each player playing for the same Franchise in every tournament around the World.
Will Pakistanis be employed at any of these Franchises?
Surely we will tire of the same league being replayed in every country with the same Franchise in every league.
I said with IPL team owners and other business tycoons. MLC has 4 IPL owners and 2 others which includes Cricket Victoria and local tech tycoon. Pakistani players are involved in MLC and nobody has said a word that they cannot play except in IPL.
 

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Well, no because the calendar has been monopolised by the IPL and now other franchise leagues. 10-15 years ago, a league like this could have been implemented. Just because it's unlikely doesn't mean we can't imagine a more interesting or better cricket structure.
I think you mean 'monetized'. Monopoly brings about a completely different meaning here.

A league structure won't work for cricket due to the following:
Long drawn out
Too many one sided games

Personally,I can't see how this becomes interesting. The last World Cup was a bore, so was the Super 8 in 2007- these were on the lines of leagues.

You are talking about implementing leagues in a packed calendar full of T20 leagues. Do you really think people might want to watch more meaningless T20s?
If T20 cricket is so popular why is the T20 world cup so short and so poorly run?
Maximise your stars earning potential, the ICC is useless.
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At least have a 10 team T20 world cup with the same structure as the ODI World Cup.
Are you out of your mind? How can you contradict your own statements in the same post? One one hand you state the WT20 is short, on the other you want to limit it to 10 teams?
If teams like New Zealand, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh, all went on strike and said no international cricket until a new Super League is formed and therefore a more equal share of the pie it might change
All the players will still be employed in franchise leagues anyway.
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Makes sense for teams like South Africa and Sri Lanka to just go on strike until the ICC makes international cricket viable.
Teams can get an equal share if they bring in those kinds of revenues. Per your suggestion,should the teams go on strike, that would be the death of all international cricket.
Why does the ICC have no money? Not enough International matches being watched? Simple, play more.
Play more, yes. But let it have a proper structure. A league cannot be an excuse to keep on playing. Truth be told, the ICC gets its revenue via sale of TV rights, sponsorship and other items. Bilaterals have no standing at all.

Did anyone watch the new South African T20 league? Buying teams in a league no one watches is a waste of time.
T20 leagues are being run as pure businesses. Businesses will invest and eventually walk away of the leagues don't work out. Over a period of time, many will collapse. You've seen what happened with the Lankan, Bangla leagues. Even the SA leagues had teething troubles.
No one in the US watches cricket, how is buying those teams good business sense.
Read my point above. Also, the US is trying to bring in more cricketers into the system. Lot of Americans have been at the games. Businesses will try to develop the game further.

The USA will become a haven for those players who are being shunned by their domestic/international sides. Akin to the Kolpak deals that used to be a thing of the last, one will see a lot many migrating to the States to pursue their cricket further.

The next big market will be China. Businesses aren't dumb to invest truck loads without a proper risk return analysis
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If you want Kohli to test his skills against Pakistanis in a Franchise league just let them back into the IPL, you don't have to play it in the UAE or the US.
I don't know where this is coming from. The entire conversation was around T20 leagues,future and international leagues.

How does Kohli fit into this?:angry:
 

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Wait, you guys are taking Slowcoach seriously?
I am trying to with factual points. International Cricket should not die and we all have discussed this in past. But meaningless one sided games should end, that is killing cricket more then the franchise cricket leagues. India vs West Indies is the perfect example. Even though the WI have won more ICC trophies compared to India in last 10 years, there still is a huge gap in terms of talent right now!

I see a lot of people comparing won trophies to being success, I do not think any other team has had as much success of reaching semis and finals consistently across formats as India.

Also I was lost on Kohli part, have no idea where that came from.
 

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