End Game Dethwing Classic Mafia - Town (asprin/CerealKiller) Wins!

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So to address CK's concern about the "route", do you really think there is only way of playing this mode? Just off the top of my head, perhaps we could have taken advantage of the restlessness of the mafia guy. It is possible (however small the percentage) that on witnessing insignificant activity, he might lose his patience and slip. I've seen it happen numerous times and wouldn't be surprised to see it happen again.
Interesting theory, but why wouldn't he simply wait for the Night by jumping on a No Lynch bandwagon and then kill? At least this way we can clear people as Town.
 

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CK (FP - Mafia)
asprin (LBW - Mafia)
Ashutosh (LBW - Town)
LBW (CK - Mafia)
FP (LBW - Town)

Let's try something here, seeing as three out of five allegedly investigate me.

Let say I am Mafia
asprin - Sane / Naive
Ak - Insane / paranoid
FP - Insane / paranoid
CK - Insane / paranoid

Doesn't work ^

Let's say I am a Town Cop

asprin - Insane / paranoid
Ak - Sane / Naive
FP - Sane / Naive
CK - Sane / Insane / paranoid

Can work ^

CK (FP - Mafia)
asprin (LBW - Mafia)
Ashutosh (LBW - Town)
LBW (CK - Mafia)
FP (LBW - Town)

Assuming CK is Mafia
asprin - Insane
Ashutosh - Sane/Naive
LBW - Paranoid
FP - Sane/Naive
Not cleared

Assuming @asprin is Mafia
CK - Insane/Paranoid
Ashutosh - Sane/Naive
LBW - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Sane/Naive
Not cleared

Assuming Ashutosh is Mafia
CK - Insane/Paranoid
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
LBW - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Sane/Naive
So @Ashutosh. is cleared as town

Assuming @LBW. is Mafia
CK - Paranoid
asprin - Sane
Ashutosh - Insane/Naive
FP - Insane/Naive
Not cleared

Assuming @Fake Passport is Mafia
CK - Sane
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
Ashutosh - Naive
LBW - Insane/Paranoid
Not cleared

Quite happy to clear AK as a town cop at the moment.
 

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LYNCH : Fake Passport

asprin - Insane / paranoid
Ak - Sane / Naive
FP - Sane / Naive
CK - Sane / Insane / paranoid

Based on ^ a hunch that CK is the sane cop!
 

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AK = Naive
LBW = Paranoid / Insane
CK = Sane
asprin = Paranoid / Insane
FP = Goon

Game set, match!
 

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Interesting theory, but why wouldn't he simply wait for the Night by jumping on a No Lynch bandwagon and then kill?
He could. But that wasn't the point of my explanation. It merely served as an example of another "route" you wanted a proof of.


Game set, match!
This is interesting. A post before you said it's a hunch and then you seem very sure of it.
 

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Let's say I am a Town Cop

asprin - Insane / paranoid
Ak - Sane / Naive
FP - Sane / Naive
CK - Sane / Insane / paranoid

Can work ^
If you are a Town Cop, one of those investigations is fake, so this doesn't make any sense.
He could. But that wasn't the point of my explanation. It merely served as an example of another "route" you wanted a proof of.
Did you think of this route after i asked you or before? :p
Let's try something here, seeing as three out of five allegedly investigate me.

Let say I am Mafia
asprin - Sane / Naive
Ak - Insane / paranoid
FP - Insane / paranoid
CK - Insane / paranoid

Doesn't work ^
CK (FP - Mafia)
asprin (LBW - Mafia)
Ashutosh (LBW - Town)
LBW (CK - Mafia)
FP (LBW - Town)

If you are Mafia
CK - Paranoid
asprin - Sane
Ashutosh - Insane/Naive
FP - Insane/Naive

How would @asprin be Naive when he got you as Mafia and @Ashutosh. and @Fake Passport Paranoid when they got you as Town? Massive red flag here.
FOS : LBW
 

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How would @asprin be Naive

Shucks! Quite right!

Sane Cop
- aka normal cop. Will return a correct result.
Insane Cop - Will return the opposite result.
Paranoid Cop - Will return a mafia result.
Naive Cop - Will return a town result.

By assuming one person is Scum and analyzing each player's inspection, you can clear that person if three people would have to assume only two roles.

CK (FP - Mafia)
asprin (LBW - Mafia)
Ashutosh (LBW - Town)
LBW (CK - Mafia)
FP (LBW - Town)

  • LBW as scum
CK - Insane/Paranoid
asprin - Sane/Paranoid
Ashutosh - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Insane/Paranoid
Not in the clear
  • FP as scum
CK - Sane/Paranoid
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
Ashutosh - Sane/Naive
LBW - Naive/Paranoid
Not in the clear
  • CK as scum
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
Ashutosh. - Sane/Naive
LBW. - Sane (Naive edit)
FP - Sane/Naive
Not in the clear

  • Ashutosh as scum
asprin - Paranoid/Insane
CK - Paranoid/Insane
FP - Sane/Naive
LBW - Paranoid/Insane
Not in the clear

  • asprin as scum
Ashutosh - Sane/Naive
CK - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Sane/Naive
LBW - Insane/Paranoid
Not in the clear

^ If the above is correct (please check as I am known to do it incorrectly) , nobody is in the clear; thus someone is lying,right?
 
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Did you think of this route after i asked you or before? :p
Haha..to be frank, after. The purpose of my initial post was to see if we can agree to not take the usual approach.

See ^ possibly you are the paranoid cop :p
Casually trying to avoid giving an explanation huh?
 

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Shucks! Quite right!

Sane Cop
- aka normal cop. Will return a correct result.
Insane Cop - Will return the opposite result.
Paranoid Cop - Will return a mafia result.
Naive Cop - Will return a town result.



CK (FP - Mafia)
asprin (LBW - Mafia)
Ashutosh (LBW - Town)
LBW (CK - Mafia)
FP (LBW - Town)

  • LBW as scum
CK - Insane/Paranoid
asprin - Sane/Paranoid
Ashutosh - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Insane/Paranoid
Not in the clear
  • FP as scum
CK - Sane/Paranoid
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
Ashutosh - Sane/Naive
LBW - Naive/Paranoid
Not in the clear
  • CK as scum
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
Ashutosh. - Sane/Naive
LBW. - Sane/Naive
FP - Sane/Naive
Not in the clear

  • Ashutosh as scum
asprin - Paranoid/Insane
CK - Paranoid/Insane
FP - Sane/Naive
LBW - Paranoid/Insane
Not in the clear

  • asprin as scum
Ashutosh - Sane/Naive
CK - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Sane/Naive
LBW - Insane/Paranoid
Not in the clear

^ If the above is correct (please check as I am known to do it incorrectly) , nobody is in the clear; thus someone is lying,right?
I already analysed here
CK (FP - Mafia)
asprin (LBW - Mafia)
Ashutosh (LBW - Town)
LBW (CK - Mafia)
FP (LBW - Town)

Assuming Ashutosh is Mafia
CK - Insane/Paranoid
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
LBW - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Sane/Naive
So Ashutosh is cleared as town
Ashutosh is cleared as Town because it's impossible for the four cop roles to be distributed among us if he was Mafia, based on our investigations. Everyone else is not cleared.
AK = Naive
LBW = Paranoid / Insane
CK = Sane
asprin = Paranoid / Insane
FP = Goon

Game set, match!
You could have everyone except Ashutosh as Mafia based on investigations. So i could say you or asprin are Mafia, and there'd be no solid proof to the contrary.
Do you genuinely suck at analysing or are trying to confuse us?
It's called progressive thinking ;)
This increases my suspicion on you.
Strong FOS : LBW
Haha..to be frank, after. The purpose of my initial post was to see if we can agree to not take the usual approach.
And what purpose would that have? It would make the game more confusing, and Mafia wouldn't have to make up an investigation, making it easier for him. Unless that is exactly what you wanted?

 

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Ashutosh is cleared as Town because it's impossible for the four cop roles to be distributed among us if he was Mafia, based on our investigations. Everyone else is not cleared.
You can clear that person if three people would have to assume only two roles. So he is not cleared based on that.

Sticking with my lynch. Unless FP can convince me it's asprin that's lying!
 

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You can clear that person if three people would have to assume only two roles. So he is not cleared based on that.

Sticking with my lynch. Unless FP can convince me it's asprin that's lying!
Assuming Ashutosh is Mafia
CK - Insane/Paranoid
asprin - Insane/Paranoid
LBW - Insane/Paranoid
FP - Sane/Naive
Me, asprin and you would have to take two roles, Insane/Paranoid. How is he not cleared?
And you didn't even address my point here
You could have everyone except Ashutosh as Mafia based on investigations. So i could say you or asprin are Mafia, and there'd be no solid proof to the contrary.
Do you genuinely suck at analysing or are trying to confuse us?
There's no solid evidence or reason to lynch FP. You either made it all up, or believed so by mistake, which is hard to believe, given that you didn't even reply to my point above.
Lynch : LBW
 

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... Unless FP can convince me it's asprin that's lying!

No can do. Nice trying to set the bait though, I don't need an out on which you can then use to string me up to cover your mistakes ;)

Sorry dude - Really wanted to break with tradition but if the roles fall that way... Classic mafia play by you though, tunnel someone hard as soon as there is any suspicion on you, create confusion, duplicate information, the vague/flippant answers etc etc as CK and Asprin mentioned...

I dare say even the edit post is mafiaish, you wouldn't edit post as town as the game doesn't end with your death if it's town.

Very strong FOS - LBW
 

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Do you genuinely suck at analysing or are trying to confuse us?
^ If the above is correct (please check as I am known to do it incorrectly)
@Fake Passport why so quiet?

Me, asprin and you would have to take two roles, Insane/Paranoid. How is he not cleared?
And you didn't even address my point here
I take it that three people has to assume any two roles.

I've cleared you earlier, why do you go after me? Why do you clear Fake? It is either Fake or asprin!
CK (FP - Mafia) >> leaning Town
asprin (LBW - Mafia)
Ashutosh (LBW - Town) >> leaning Town
LBW (CK - Mafia) >> know I am town
FP (LBW - Town)

Lynch tally:

Fake: 1 (LBW)
LBW: 1 (CK)
 

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