India Team Discussion

[NILAYSHAH60]

Dhoni never cared about grooming anyone else for tests

As far as Dhoni's retirement in Test match was concerned we already had Saha who was the next best keeper India had in that format. I agree with your logic that India doesn't need to groom anyone for being the wicket keeper but, Pant's keeping skills needs a little bit of improvement to be a solid wicket-keeper as that is where Dhoni is required but I believe him being the mentor would help India better.

 

[SaiSrini]

Tbh he has constantly improved himself over the course of time and he wants to keep improving himself. At the end of the day he doesn't care about how he ends up as the Captain. He too wants India to become world beaters and always wants to win the game for his side no matter what. There's nothing wrong as far as his intent as Captain is concerned.

I don't see great improvement in his captaincy skills. Keeps making similar mistakes often. Everyone who is given the chance, wants India to become world beaters and they always have the right intent.

In a country like India which has too many talents and players, one guy captaining the team without his captaincy being put on the review, is ridiculous. It seems as if his captaincy is 'unquestionable' and he is allowed unlimited mistakes and no question is raised about his captaincy. That is not at all healthy for any cricketing nation. TBH, he was deeply involved in the ouster of a good coach like Anil Kumble and after that, he has failed to produce the results that would justify involvement in that entire saga.

 

[aditya123]

As far as Dhoni's retirement in Test match was concerned we already had Saha who was the next best keeper India had in that format. I agree with your logic that India doesn't need to groom anyone for being the wicket keeper but, Pant's keeping skills needs a little bit of improvement to be a solid wicket-keeper as that is where Dhoni is required but I believe him being the mentor would help India better.

We are kidding ourselves if we think this is about grooming someone. If Saha was good enough to replace MSD (and Pant later on) abruptly in a format that is far more challenging, the only reason for keeping MSD around is due to the fact that they`re somehow concerned his IPL aura will diminish. I say this with utmost respect to the man but him being around in ODIs any longer is just pure hindrance to the side. If we lose in the WI ODIs, so be it. One of the big reasons for our big match problems is the fact that we don`t take risks in pointless bilaterals either and don`t make ourselves uncomfortable often enough. In some ways, it will only take the fear of losing away from these young minds.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I don't see great improvement in his captaincy skills. Keeps making similar mistakes often. Everyone who is given the chance, wants India to become world beaters and they always have the right intent.

In a country like India which has too many talents and players, one guy captaining the team without his captaincy being put on the review, is ridiculous. It seems as if his captaincy is 'unquestionable' and he is allowed unlimited mistakes and no question is raised about his captaincy. That is not at all healthy for any cricketing nation. TBH, he was deeply involved in the ouster of a good coach like Anil Kumble and after that, he has failed to produce the results that would justify involvement in that entire saga.

He did mistakes in the past but it has been a while since he has repeated any error. The entire WC he Captained he was pro-active and was every now and then coming with with strategies to get the batsman out. There was an instance in a match where Kohli came up with something and Dhoni just made a minor tweak into it, the very next ball it turned out to be a wicket. And it happened not just once but many times.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

We are kidding ourselves if we think this is about grooming someone. If Saha was good enough to replace MSD (and Pant later on) abruptly in a format that is far more challenging, the only reason for keeping MSD around is due to the fact that they`re somehow concerned his IPL aura will diminish. I say this with utmost respect to the man but him being around in ODIs any longer is just pure hindrance to the side. If we lose in the WI ODIs, so be it. One of the big reasons for our big match problems is the fact that we don`t take risks in pointless bilaterals either and don`t make ourselves uncomfortable often enough. In some ways, it will only take the fear of losing away from these young minds.

You missed out my point there

but I believe him being the mentor would help India better.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Another bogus selection in terms of the T20 squad. Kuldeep and Chahal can be rested in 50 overs but they need to play as much T20 as possible before the next WC. Looks like the experimentation will continue and MSK Prasad will still be in his post.

 

[SaiSrini]

Guess the current set of selectors will stay in their current posts till the upcoming BCCI AGM (Annual General Meeting) on October 22. That's when the BCCI elections will also be held. Once that's done, a new set of selectors should take over.

Let's hope and pray that the incoming group is not as silly as the current lot. I hope the CoA adds more pedigree to the selectors role and makes it a priority that the selectors have played for India for a good chunk of matches and have done decently well in their roles as players. It becomes a laughing stock when guys like MSK Prasad are picked as selectors and that too as the chief selector.

On the MS Dhoni topic - (purely based on the reports that have been circulating in the media) I guess he will drag it on, similar to the likes of Harbhajan/Yuvraj/Gambhir/Sehwag and then when he is also ready to stop playing the IPL, he will probably announce official retirement at that time. But for all practical purposes, his India career is over. I don't buy this "Dhoni will be backup in case Pant gets injured for the T20 WC". If that happens, Karthik should step in as he has enough experience to replace Pant in case of injury. And we better groom a backup for Pant instead of hoping that Dhoni will fill that. Going back to Dhoni in case of injury, is such a backward step and one that will be ridiculous.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I have a good news for the Indian fans out there

Spoiler

Mahela Jayarwedene applies for Indian head coach position

 

[kushagra29]

Tbh he has constantly improved himself over the course of time and he wants to keep improving himself. At the end of the day he doesn't care about how he ends up as the Captain. He too wants India to become world beaters and always wants to win the game for his side no matter what. There's nothing wrong as far as his intent as Captain is concerned.

There is nothing wrong in his intent but the problem with him is decision-making. I don't know what to call it (fate or something) he does take wrong decisions particularly in knock-out matches. I agree that he is improving but I feel he is a better captain in a longer format than a shorter format.

 

[SaiSrini]

Mahela will make a great batting coach. Maybe Moody as head coach and Mahela as batting coach will be an even better option than them fighting it out for head coach?

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Mahela will make a great batting coach. Maybe Moody as head coach and Mahela as batting coach will be an even better option than them fighting it out for head coach?

He has had success with Mumbai Indians in IPL as MI have won 2 out of last 3 titles under him. He has enough of credibles with him.

 

[aditya123]

Mahela will make a great batting coach. Maybe Moody as head coach and Mahela as batting coach will be an even better option than them fighting it out for head coach?

The drunkard is, in all likelihood, going to get an extension till 2020.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

The drunkard is, in all likelihood, going to get an extension till 2020.

As far as I know Kohli won't have any say this time in selection process for the head coach. So we may see a new coach. Chances are less but they do exist.

 

[ShamiLoverGlipGlops]

To be honest the Semi Final exit actually might play out well. Kohli will have less say in things. He got his 4 years and although we reached the semis the glaring issue of number 4th position was wide open. I liked what Harsha Bhogle said, we need an as good number 4 as Kohli plays at 3. Iyer can definitely play that role of a run a ball inning. Pandey is not consistent.

Also what is it with players showing disappointment in public over not getting selected. Gill and Gaikwad both were fantastic as openers in A games but do we need them no. With Dhawan back in the mix and management still showing some confidence in Rahul, Gill needs to keep working hard. He is really close and he was in the XI in NZ.

 

[SaiSrini]

Gill needs to calm down and focus on his game and needs to avoid talking in media. So soon if he starts showing disappointment at not being selected, it could harm his reputation down the line. Due to seniority, Iyer and Pandey got above him. He just needs to keep working harder and push through.

Gill will be that guy who can open or bat in the middle order. He will give us flexibility. He is the future of India's batting and got to keep his head down