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Well Kings would feel cheated, considering there was a wrong short run call in the 19th over, and thus they fell short by a run...

I don't expect the Punjab team to really stress about it but it is shocking that the commentators made no mention of it. This was a mistake that was so easily fixable without really having a huge consequence at that moment and they did nothing. Cricket as a whole really needs to improve with regards to some shockingly backward and inflexible rules.
 

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I don't expect the Punjab team to really stress about it but it is shocking that the commentators made no mention of it. This was a mistake that was so easily fixable without really having a huge consequence at that moment and they did nothing. Cricket as a whole really needs to improve with regards to some shockingly backward and inflexible rules.
Well, Sunil Gavaskar was saying continuously that the run should be added, since there is no issue of strike change also. Well :(
 

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Worst super over ever.
 

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If you don't have space for Maxi in the top four, might as well play Neesham instead of him for the extra pacer and death bowling option. Maxi in the middle order makes no sense and takes away a lot of his strengths.
 

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Jordan had a real unlucky day
Conceded 50+ runs, bowled a no ball on the last ball and got out on the last ball

Stoinis a totally opposite, very lucky day
Got 2 wickets on full-tosses
 

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Yeh the commentators did mention it.

Now I do remember Sunny G mentioning it but it was just forgotten away later. Granted KXIP did their best with that collapse to ensure that.
 

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If you don't have space for Maxi in the top four, might as well play Neesham instead of him for the extra pacer and death bowling option. Maxi in the middle order makes no sense and takes away a lot of his strengths.

It's tricky because he is such an x-factor player that you want him in your team but the shot that he played today makes you pull your hair. If nothing works out, I would even open with him but that would push Rahul down the order. So it is difficult to figure out what is the best position for him.
 

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He had a VERY bad day.

As did Bumrah a night back. If we are passing judgements based on a recently concluded game, we're no different from the media.[DOUBLEPOST=1600626888][/DOUBLEPOST]Paddikal
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RCB should play this side tomorrow. It's the same track and I think not playing Steyn will be insane on this track. Open with Steyn and Umesh with Saini and Morris to follow.
 

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As did Bumrah a night back. If we are passing judgements based on a recently concluded game, we're no different from the media.

I am not judging him based on a recently concluded game. This is not the first time I have seen Jordan struggle in the death overs. I made a post earlier today as well when I said that when he does get it right, he is quality but he doesn't get it right very often. I do understand that it is one of the most challenging things to do in a T20 game but if you are specifically chosen for the role, you have to be a bit better. He also wasn't very smart today in his approach with absolutely no variations.
 

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It's tricky because he is such an x-factor player that you want him in your team but the shot that he played today makes you pull your hair. If nothing works out, I would even open with him but that would push Rahul down the order. So it is difficult to figure out what is the best position for him.

His best position is at either three (where he plays for the Stars) or at four (where he plays for Australia and has two centuries). Maxwell works best when he gets to play his brand of cricket where he starts off steadily with good rotation of the strike and putting away the bad balls for boundaries, preferably before the powerplay ends. It is when the situation demands him to be aggressive right from the start (or is told to do so) or the game is in a state where you can afford complacency that he starts losing his way and plays those funky shots. The only other time they appear is when he is well settled and seeing the white ball like a beach ball.

His strike-rate has most people fooled with the style of cricketer he is when in reality he is a less consistent version of AbD or any other highly aggressive top order batsman. At the death he is going to struggle if he comes in fresh barring the odd game where he just goes berserk and lady luck favours him. And no, he is not inconsistent for a top four role in general as I've seen numerous smart performances from him for the Stars and in Australian colours.

Now the big question is if Maxwell the IPL cricketer deserves a top four role given how poor he has been in most seasons barring 2014 in this same country for the same franchise. Which is why I think if you're not going to play him in his preferred role, you might as well go with Neesham who is a gun cricketer himself solving the issue of a middle order hitter and a supporting death bowler for Jordan, both of which his team needs (Maxi bowls off-spin too which is already covered by Gowtham). He also has a very good fighting mentality which is something that this Punjab side could definitely use as shown today. I do not think he would have ever played that brainless shot that Pooran did for example.
 

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I am not judging him based on a recently concluded game. This is not the first time I have seen Jordan struggle in the death overs. I made a post earlier today as well when I said that when he does get it right, he is quality but he doesn't get it right very often. I do understand that it is one of the most challenging things to do in a T20 game but if you are specifically chosen for the role, you have to be a bit better. He also wasn't very smart today in his approach with absolutely no variations.

I have seen almost all death bowlers get clattered once in a while. I see so much hype about Rabada today but very simply it's just being result oriented. KL played an awful shot and Pooran's delivery was what we call "the slot." If the World Cup winning side and easily the best white ball team sees a place for Jordan in their side, it must mean something? What I will agree with you on is the no balls. I think it's the worst way to let your team down in a T20.
 

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I have seen almost all death bowlers get clattered once in a while. I see so much hype about Rabada today but very simply it's just being result oriented. KL played an awful shot and Pooran's delivery was what we call "the slot." If the World Cup winning side and easily the best white ball team sees a place for Jordan in their side, it must mean something? What I will agree with you on is the no balls. I think it's the worst way to let your team down in a T20.

Just to add my two cents on this debate, Rabada got clattered by Ashton Agar out of all people in a T20I series this year and today he delivered a standout spell. Death bowling is an incredibly tough proposition and for the most part I think Jordan is a terrific death bowler. I simply don't think he was in the right spot mentally in the last over and it seems Stoinis has a fairly decent record against him in T20s which might have played into his head too.
 

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