ABC talk back radio views on greatest player

[sohum]

Well Inzy always gives you a chance with the run out.
And to be honest, langerrox did (in the original post) allude to his biasness and in an indirect sort of way, say that he was on crack.

 

[Pak_cricketer]

So does Sachin and Lara.

I think Inzy is one who does not GIVE you a chane of getting him out early.

Inzy would sometimes stuggle to get to 20, on occasions. But once he's past 20 he'll play very confidently.

Inzy doesn't get run out many times, because when Yousaf or Razzaq who like to pick the singles, start running, Inzy stays in his crease and looks at the batsman.

 

[catdad2001]

according to me ponting is a brilliant player but not an innovative captain.gilly would make a much better captain.as far as the greatest player debate is concerned ponting is not in same league as sachin,inzi or lara because the latter
are tecnically very sound whereas ponting's tecnique is flawed.
everybody knows how he fared against Harbhajan in india or for that matter against Shane Bond.

 

[hassan17]

Ponting doesnt get runs EVERY innings, and he gives you a BIG chance of getting him out early.

So does Sachin and Lara.

I think Inzy is one who does not GIVE you a chane of getting him out early.

Whats is this "giving" thing surely calibre batsmen of Sachin,Lara and Ponting would not "give" a chance to get them out. Don't you agree. :

 

[BigCrickNan]

What I mean is that Ponting is very vunerable early in the innings, specially to a full ball on off-stump.

 

[RussianVodka]

Honestly i think every 1 is biase towards there own countries batsman
Ponting and Lara both give u chances early on in there innings
And for the past couple years or so Ponting, Dravid and Inzi have been the best batsmen. I think its fair to say tat by the end of Pontings career he will be on the sam level as sachin and lara

 

[sohum]

^ Agree with RussianVodka.

I think its almost impossible to not "give" a chance at the beginning of your innings unless you're in terribly good nick. No matter how good a batsman you are, it'll take you some time to get your eye in, measure the pace/bounce of the wicket, etc.

 

[angryangy]

Its fairly obvious that Langerrox is being a bit biased. He says Martyn is more elegant than Sachin? I mean come on!!! Stop talking utter nonsense. Do you even watch Sachin? You think 13700 odd odi runs and 10200 odd test runs come by not being elegant? Besides, its not even about looks...keep quiet. Stop being biased and then resume this discussion. As for the fielding, Ponting is good, but not the best in Australia-Symonds, and definitely not the world. Ponting is a good fielder no doubt! But after Collingwood, Gibbs and most of the other South Africans, Kaif, Yuvraj, Sami, Bravo among others. So really, you should cool it.

Would you say Brian Lara is an exceptionally elegant batsman? What of Allan Border? These are the men who have scored the most Test runs and both very different batsmen. Elegant isn't the word I'd use to describe Lara. His shots are frequently flashy and daunting, I can't imagine how much skill and practice it must take to be able to play them. I guess you would say he bats like Brian Lara. That isn't elegance, though.

Sachin Tendulkar is something of a textbook player. Where you probably don't want to copy Lara's style, you look to Tendulkar to see what is close to the best technique possible. So, yes, he is elegant, very elegant, but it is hard to describe how genuinely simple Damien Martyn makes it look.

As for fielders, there is no way you can pick the best fielders without being biased, unless you watch every match that is played. You have to watch the player a lot to see how well he fields, something you can easily do for your own, but not so much for others.

 

[m_vaughan]

Russian Vodka is spot on with his post. But I am not Australian and still think Ponting is best batsmen currently.

 

[angryangy]

I think what people mean by "gives you a chance" is that once they get to 20 or 30 runs, they often stop "giving you chances" and start controlling the game.

 

[sohum]

In that case, I think every aforementioned player has that ability. If Tendulkar didn't have that ability, he wouldn't have 35 test match centuries (and 41 half-centuries--a conversion of just under 50%). Lara definitely has that ability with his mammoth triple and quadruple-centuries. And I don't think anyone has the ability to perfect domination from ball 1.

 

[Pace-Ace]

Ponting is quite vulnerable in the start of his innings but so is every single batsman in the world. As far as simplicity goes Martyn's strokes look more elegant and simple than Tendulkars. Maybe im a bit biased in this case but i think so.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Ponting is quite vulnerable in the start of his innings but so is every single batsman in the world. As far as simplicity goes Martyn's strokes look more elegant and simple than Tendulkars. Maybe im a bit biased in this case but i think so.

I agree, but any batsman who is troubled by half volleys is clearly not worth his salt.

I mean Ponting.... :

His batting is more slog/smash/hit it hard than elegance. Even Gilchrist and Jayasuriya have a few beautiful cut shots, but his is raw brutality. It may seem effective, but he will just be a slogger to me. One who is afraid of half volleys early in his innings...

 

[langerrox]

I agree, but any batsman who is troubled by half volleys is clearly not worth his salt.

I mean Ponting.... :

His batting is more slog/smash/hit it hard than elegance. Even Gilchrist and Jayasuriya have a few beautiful cut shots, but his is raw brutality. It may seem effective, but he will just be a slogger to me. One who is afraid of half volleys early in his innings...

Zorax what are you smoking, You're calling Ricky Ponting a slogger more so than gilchrist your on crack again don't post views on normal game players to be sloggers...okay then ill do a ZoraxDoom -Geoffrey Boycott is a slogger

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Chill out man. Thats my opinion. Doesn't have to mean its right. I just don't think Ponting is as good a batsman nor will ever be as good as Sachin, Dravid, Lara or Kallis.