England's tour of India - 2021

[harishankar]

Looking forward to seeing the Trent Bridge pitch looking like this in August

Oh come on, you always prepare extra green tracks against Asian touring sides. Nobody complains then.

 

[harishankar]

Well I take my words back and this is a disgraceful wicket. After all the highs of Australia we come home to pitches like these. I am sure we could have prepared better pitches for the return of cricket to India for a series as big as this, Indian fans please do not cry if things are reciprocated in our tour to England later this year with green seaming and swinging pitches that end in 2 days as well. Yes while I agree the first inning shots played by the English batsman were for spin and they got out to straighter deliveries, this pitch has been an abomination.

As an Indian fan, this has been a boring series for me. The Chennai pitch for both the matches was below standard and this pitch has been below standard as well. I am just hoping that the last match has a better pitch that lasts all 5 days. There is enough talent on both the sides to last the match for all 5 days.

Pitch like this is nothing new in India. But I think pink ball and batting in twilight conditions on bowler friendly conditions is not good for test cricket. In a traditional red ball match this match could have gone into the fourth day I feel.

Pink ball seems harder than the red ball and exaggerates the spin and bounce and also doesn’t seem to become old and soft as quickly as the red ball. I think ball even seamed when the English seamers bowled in the first innings in twilight.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Indian fans please do not cry if things are reciprocated in our tour to England later this year with green seaming and swinging pitches

I am sure we would be blaming our own batsmen if they don't do well on those wickets.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Did Kohli really say that this was a good pitch to bat on and only the odd bowl turned?

He also said that this game is an example of a poor Cricket match and went on say that he has never seen things happen such quickly in a match. He expects some better competition from both sides for the next match.

 

[abhi_jacko]

Indian fans please do not cry if things are reciprocated in our tour to England later this year with green seaming and swinging pitches that end in 2 days as well.

Our tour of England ? you are thinking too far ahead

If we reach the WTC final, I am sure we will now be treated to a spicy, green track against NZ's world class bowling attack

 

[harishankar]

Our tour of England ? you are thinking too far ahead

If we reach the WTC final, I am sure we will now be treated to a spicy, green track against NZ's world class bowling attack

Unlike Indian teams in the past we also have a world class seam bowling attack now with quality and depth and we can compete in those conditions.

 

[SaiSrini]

I think it’s not just the pitch. We’ve had worse pitches with red ball where teams scored over 200 in India. I feel the pink ball and twilight conditions just dont cut it for test cricket at international level. Not a big fan of day night tests. I think artificial light can never substitute daylight conditions with test match pitches. White ball cricket is a different story with flat batting tracks made for limited overs. And I just didn’t get a classic Test match feel for day night matches.

ICC needs to stop experimenting with pink balls and day night tests. I bet the red ball traditional Test will last 4 days in similar pitch conditions.

True this. According to me, pink ball tests are turning out to be a farce! Could actually fast track test cricket's demise, instead of revitalizing it.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

I think it’s not just the pitch. We’ve had worse pitches with red ball where teams scored over 200 in India. I feel the pink ball and twilight conditions just dont cut it for test cricket at international level. Not a big fan of day night tests. I think artificial light can never substitute daylight conditions with test match pitches. White ball cricket is a different story with flat batting tracks made for limited overs. And I just didn’t get a classic Test match feel for day night matches.

ICC needs to stop experimenting with pink balls and day night tests. I bet the red ball traditional Test will last 4 days in similar pitch conditions.

I think the ball has played a big factor and if they can't produce a good quality ball for this kind of cricket the only other option would be using a white ball and having a new ball after 40 overs. Or it's going to have vastly different tactics to other test matches. I could envisage cross seam deliveries being more useful than traditional seam or swing.

In terms of the twilight I think only 3 of the 30 wickets were lost in 3rd session (I dunno what time it gets dark over there).

Any match that doesn't last two (three, realistically) days needs to be looked at and lessons learned about why, because I certainly don't think this was down to batting technique. Of course if they want to introduce four day test matches then just use the pink ball.

If a pink ball is going to accelerate the speed of the game then a better pitch needs to be prepared.

 

[Verified Enigma]

Our tour of England ? you are thinking too far ahead

If we reach the WTC final, I am sure we will now be treated to a spicy, green track against NZ's world class bowling attack

Icc will be preparing that pitch. Not England

 

[asprin]

Funny how talks about negatives of Pink ball Test is gaining momentum after this Test. I'm not denying what happened - a Test match ending inside 2 days is farcical. But no way should the blame solely lie on the format. We could see glimes of batting being fine in Crawley's and Rohit's innings. It felt like it was a mind thing for some batsmen. Seeing collapses of epic proportions affected them while batting the second time.

Day-Night Tests are certainly a change and while I don't want them packed inside each series, having them once in a home-away series should be encouraged.

 

[Verified Enigma]

Massive plus for Rohit. In Chennai and even this match.

He has been the only person on both sides (barring that special knock from Ash) who has been high on confidence in batting on such tracks.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Funny how talks about negatives of Pink ball Test is gaining momentum after this Test. I'm not denying what happened - a Test match ending inside 2 days is farcical. But no way should the blame solely lie on the format. We could see glimes of batting being fine in Crawley's and Rohit's innings. It felt like it was a mind thing for some batsmen. Seeing collapses of epic proportions affected them while batting the second time.

Day-Night Tests are certainly a change and while I don't want them packed inside each series, having them once in a home-away series should be encouraged.

Crawley and Sharma both opened the batting and probably faced the most from the seamers who, on the whole didn't look at that effective. You could see from some of the DRS that the bounce seemed much higher early on. Look at the one Sharma got Sibley with and Gill got out to one from Archer that climbed on him a bit.

I think England pulled back some of the momentum but the first three balls of the second innings completely swung it back to India.

 

[SaiSrini]

Funny how talks about negatives of Pink ball Test is gaining momentum after this Test. I'm not denying what happened - a Test match ending inside 2 days is farcical. But no way should the blame solely lie on the format. We could see glimes of batting being fine in Crawley's and Rohit's innings. It felt like it was a mind thing for some batsmen. Seeing collapses of epic proportions affected them while batting the second time.

Day-Night Tests are certainly a change and while I don't want them packed inside each series, having them once in a home-away series should be encouraged.

Is it the pitch or is it the pink ball? Eden lasted 2 days and 1 session. Adelaide 2 and a half days. This 2 days. Was this as much a turner as the second Chennai Test? Is it that teams haven’t yet come to terms with the pink ball?

You think modern day generation is going to watch such 2-3 day pink ball tests a lot going forward. NO!!They'd rather watch 2-3 T20 matches in comparison. I think acceptance of the fact that test cricket is what it is, and just keep trying to maintain balance between bat and ball is what needs to be done.

Also if you dont want pink ball tests to be packed inside each series, then the players are going to have an even tougher time coming to grips with the pink ball. Already people are saying that we need to play an entire series with pink ball for players to get used to it. Honestly in my opinion, pink ball needs to be dumped.. I might even like the idea of playing a day/night test with a white ball (like how ODI's are played) and changing ball after 40 overs. All this if you really think D/N tests are going to breathe life into test cricket....

 

[coolz_hari]

Motera Stadium pitch isn't a Test match playing cricket pitch.
This will force the ICC to consider 3 or 4 days tests in the future.
It feels like Modern day batsmen lack the skills to play spin pitches because most of the wickets were straight ball deliveries.

 

[Ed Smith]

Motera Stadium pitch isn't a Test match playing cricket pitch.
This will force the ICC to consider 3 or 4 days tests in the future.
It feels like Modern day batsmen lack the skills to play spin pitches because most of the wickets were straight ball deliveries.

Because the Motera won't stand up to 5 days?