Pakistan Team Discussion

[CerealKiller]

How would you guys feel about brining Sarfaraz Ahmed back into the test lineup.

I don't want to drop Rizwan, but Sarfaraz is still a better choice than either Abid or Imran

Imam
Azhar Ali
Babar
Fawad
Sarfaraz
Rizwan
Faheem
Hasan
Nauman
Shaheen
Abbas

Preferably I would want someone else to open besides Azhar but until someone else is ready.

People want Imran butt for his slip catching but I feel Sarfaraz with his keeping experience can do well in the slips

@Na Maloom Afraad @Umair7 @AsadRM @CerealKiller

I don't know what form Sarfraz has shown in FC to warrant a Test recall. I would definitely rather have Saud Shakeel debut, if Azhar is going to open.

 

[CerealKiller]

About Ramiz Raja potentially being appointed PCB chairman

The reason for our fast bowlers not being good is that our domestic circuit is not good enough. Ramiz Raja under Tauqeer Zia with unlimited powers (which come with dictatorship) changed the nature of pitches of domestic cricket.

When the wickets were flattish in the 70s, 80s and 90s we produced bowlers who can run through teams with reverse swing or extreme pace or spinners who had 3 types of googlies or doosras. Why did this happen? Because they couldn't get wickets with just bowling seam ups. They had to find different ways.

When wickets are green we have produced medium pacers who try to hit a length and the ball/pitch does the rest for them. When in international cricket this doesn't happen they struggle. From Wasim and Waqar we are down to Ehsan Adil and Imran Khan.

Similarly for batsmen, we had stroke players in plenty. Now we can have batsmen who look to survive long periods, play few shots, and wait for ball to get old, pitch to dry, spinners to come on. Azhar Ali, Sami Aslam, Imam ul Haq, Fawad Alam, to a degree Asad Shafiq.

If Pakistan wants to play Test cricket like the 90s we have to go back (to a certain degree) to the system that produced such unique talent.

 

[ahmedleo414]

I don't know what form Sarfraz has shown in FC to warrant a Test recall. I would definitely rather have Saud Shakeel debut, if Azhar is going to open.

Sarfaraz has a decent batting average in tests. Saud can replace Abid/Imran at the top

 

[CerealKiller]

Sarfaraz has a decent batting average in tests. Saud can replace Abid/Imran at the top

Saud isn’t an opener though. Middle order or maximum at three.

 

[ahmedleo414]

In that case, drop Azhar and have this as the top order

Imam
Abdid/Imran
Saud

 

[CerealKiller]

In that case, drop Azhar and have this as the top order

Imam
Abdid/Imran
Saud

I wouldn’t mind seeing Imam in Tests, but as @AsadRM pointed out, his technique is awful against the new ball.

 

[icyman]

Ramiz Raza taking over as PCB chairman- do you guys think it will impact your team's fortunes much? Any massive changes you foresee?

 

[CerealKiller]

Ramiz Raza taking over as PCB chairman- do you guys think it will impact your team's fortunes much? Any massive changes you foresee?

Expecting disaster, hoping to be proven wrong.

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The reason for our fast bowlers not being good is that our domestic circuit is not good enough. Ramiz Raja under Tauqeer Zia with unlimited powers (which come with dictatorship) changed the nature of pitches of domestic cricket.

When the wickets were flattish in the 70s, 80s and 90s we produced bowlers who can run through teams with reverse swing or extreme pace or spinners who had 3 types of googlies or doosras. Why did this happen? Because they couldn't get wickets with just bowling seam ups. They had to find different ways.

When wickets are green we have produced medium pacers who try to hit a length and the ball/pitch does the rest for them. When in international cricket this doesn't happen they struggle. From Wasim and Waqar we are down to Ehsan Adil and Imran Khan.

Similarly for batsmen, we had stroke players in plenty. Now we can have batsmen who look to survive long periods, play few shots, and wait for ball to get old, pitch to dry, spinners to come on. Azhar Ali, Sami Aslam, Imam ul Haq, Fawad Alam, to a degree Asad Shafiq.

If Pakistan wants to play Test cricket like the 90s we have to go back (to a certain degree) to the system that produced such unique talent.

A new system has been implemented to an extent, but Raja Ji could easily disrupt it with his "ideas".

 

[Na Maloom Afraad]

 

[Na Maloom Afraad]

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[CerealKiller]

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For those wondering https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-with-t20-world-cup-around-the-corner-1276492
Ramiz Raja is set to become the new PCB chairman on 13/9, but he's (allegedly) already forced Misbah and Waqar to resign, on the same day the WT20 squad was announced

 

[Yash.]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-with-t20-world-cup-around-the-corner-1276492

So... Amir to make a comeback?

 

[mohsin7827]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-with-t20-world-cup-around-the-corner-1276492

So... Amir to make a comeback?

New Zealand and England need to beat Pakistan badly for that to happen

Joke aside would have love Malik, Amir, Wahab this might be their last WC

 

[CerealKiller]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-with-t20-world-cup-around-the-corner-1276492

So... Amir to make a comeback?

Don't think so, Ramiz is against his comeback, I think. That might also be the reason Sharjeel has been dropped.

 

[CerealKiller]

Average vs bowlers who averaged under 28, and those that averaged over 28, plus percentage of balls faced from the former.
Shows just how good Younus was.