R.I.P chris benoit!

[The Spin]

As much as I respect Benoit as a wrestler, his actions have completely distorted my image of him. He has done something unforgivable and that shouldn't be allowed to go because he is a great wrestler. I will remember the Benoit on-screen, but Benoit the man is not in my mind

 

[Almost_Austwick]

The Spin - though I understand where you're coming from in saying that because of the actions he's taken your memory of him is tarnished, you should try to empathise (even if its only for a second), no matter how hard it may seem.

Although it may have been building for as long time the final act would have been a very quick and violent outburst and not the act of sane and rational person. There were more than likely numerous contributing factors such as work load, stress, marital\money\drug problems and anything else that you could care to mention, he may even of been suffering from the effects of 20 years of wrestling.

This is not to condone what he did but to say that in cases like this there are often very complex reasons for the outcome and though they may seen insane to us, the thoughts that were possibly running through Benoit's head as he committed the acts and took his own life probably seemed like a moment of clarity in an otherwise confusing world.

 

[jrickards]

Hey is Mr.Mcmahon death a fake

 

[Deleted member 11215]

How can you tell a Murderer to RIP if it was anyone else everyone would be saying its his fault but because he used to wrestle he gets a soft treatment. Anyone who does this deserves no respect or publicity.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

Yes, he appeared yesterday (in the flesh and alive & kicking) on the Chris Benoit Tribute RAW show, so he is definitely alive!

Tasteless storyline, anyway!

How can you tell a Murderer to RIP if it was anyone else everyone would be saying its his fault but because he used to wrestle he gets a soft treatment. Anyone who does this deserves no respect or publicity.

I find it really hard to believe and hope to God that this theory is disproved, but the evidence appears to be damning. He must've been suffering from temporary insanity, surely! Everyone spoke of him as a real gentleman and someone who loved his family. However, that's no excuse for killing his family if that's what actually happened.

I agree with that Will if its true but after the Bob Woolmer episode i'll never trust the polices first judgement. Going to wait this one out like last time

I agree 100%. We should wait and see what the following weeks turn up. As you say, they got the Sir Bob Woolmer case completely wrong.

 

[The Spin]

The Spin - though I understand where you're coming from in saying that because of the actions he's taken your memory of him is tarnished, you should try to empathise (even if its only for a second), no matter how hard it may seem.

Although it may have been building for as long time the final act would have been a very quick and violent outburst and not the act of sane and rational person. There were more than likely numerous contributing factors such as work load, stress, marital\money\drug problems and anything else that you could care to mention, he may even of been suffering from the effects of 20 years of wrestling.

This is not to condone what he did but to say that in cases like this there are often very complex reasons for the outcome and though they may seen insane to us, the thoughts that were possibly running through Benoit's head as he committed the acts and took his own life probably seemed like a moment of clarity in an otherwise confusing world.

I am empathising by remembering him in any sort of positive light TBH. Its very easy with this to just write him off as a baseless killer. I understand there are circumstances involved with this which wern't necessarily the fault of Benoit. The fact is, it takes a lot to kill your family. Nobody can condone that and it cannot be taken away from the memory of him

 

[Deleted member 9102]

Edit: Chris Gayle

 

[Almost_Austwick]

How can you tell a Murderer to RIP if it was anyone else everyone would be saying its his fault but because he used to wrestle he gets a soft treatment. Anyone who does this deserves no respect or publicity.

I don't think he deserves soft treatment because he's a wrestler but I feel that he at the very least deserves understanding because I doubt this was murder in the true sense of the word.

People who carry out this type of act are normally far from mentally stable and it's a culmination of whatever they have been feeling for a time. It can be sparked off by a petty argument, snide comment, maybe even putting the dishes the wrong way in the washer but it's never pre-meditated.

Once the reality of the act has sunken in it often becomes logical to kill the children in an attempt to keep the family together - obviously, this seems completely insane to you or I but to a person in this state it almost becomes a case of two wrongs make a right. It's much in keeping with this train of thought that leads to the final suicide.

I won't deny that there is an element of cowardice in the taking of his own life (especially as he's free from the suffering caused) but if he had lived he'd have been a broken man anyway fit for nothing more than a life a living within the confines of a psychiatric home, and you'd have to ask yourself in reality what good could ever come from that.

Just to make clear that I do not condone what he did in anyway and that he deserves some of the comments directed towards him, however, its easy to vent without considering what may have gone on behind the scenes and sometimes its just as important to consider these things, even if only for a brief second.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

Yes, I think I'm going to lose my signature. I mean, I loved the guy as a wrestler, but if all this is true, then he doesn't deserve to be remembered as a great man. I did say above that I don't really trust the police's first reactions after the Sir Bob Woolmer case, but it has to be said that these guys are the USA police, a force that are probably among the best in the world.

 

[Almost_Austwick]

These guys are the USA police, a force that are probably among the best in the world.

I can tell you now without fear of reproach that they are far from being anyway near the worlds best police force.

Just to keep this post on topic and to throw something else into the works, if this does go down as being as the result of steroid abuse\rage where does this leave the WWE and it's so called anti steroid (is it called well being?) policy.

It's blatant that despite 'testing' numerous wrestlers as still abusing drugs (mainly to get them through the punishing schedule) and many of them are dying young as a result. Is it time for WWE to have an amnesty for all wrestlers, ask them to come clean to get clean. If they do what then? A reduction in house shows, smaller superstars and larger rosters? Or will the WWE just brush it all under the carpet and pretend that it doesn't happen in their backyard.

 

[Deleted member 11215]

I Agree AA but if people knew he was acting strangely why didnt anyone report it or something. I still stand by my opinion that it is wrong to remember him afterall most murderers are influenced by something or there is something mentally wrong with them. Also i hear he left bibles next to their dead bodies so i reckon he turned to religion. But smothering and killing a 7 year old boy is just wrong and i even think the WWE show to remember him is wrong now and should of been delayed until they knew what happened because now its kind of wrong.

 

[AbBh]

After learning about the details of Benoit's death WWE.com has now removed much of the content on him from their website.They have also decided not to distribute the tribute show to their international affilates for airing

 

[Almost_Austwick]

I have asked the same question duded, but by all accounts Benoit was a quiet, introspective character and probably would have appeared near normal if put on the spot. As for killing a 7 year old, no, its not right but it's a rare case and as I said not all murders are equal regardless of the age of the victims.

I don't think the bibles really signify anything as we must remember that the USA is a far more god fearing place than the UK, especially in the South. It was probably just a ritualistic offering in asking for forgiveness from whatever he believed in.

Again, your probably right in that the WWE should have waited before putting on the memorial show and it seems that in light of the facts they have pulled syndication and will instead provide another broadcast, if anything at all.

I will say that if it is proven that he killed his wife and child because of an affair or that she was planning on leaving him (or some similar petty reason) it will cast a different light on the case and I'll withdraw my understanding. Until, then I'll keep an open mind and wait until more is known.

 

[Animator!]

Notes from the press conference to address the Benoit double homicide-suicide:

Lt. Tommy Pope:

-- The Sheriff's Department received a call for a welfare check (from WWE) at 2:30PM on Monday. While searching the house, they discovered the three bodies.

-- Based on the investigation, they are ruling it as a double homicide-suicide. Evidence leads them to believe that Chris Benoit, likely on Friday, murdered his wife by asphyxiation. Sometime after that (probably Saturday morning), he did the same to his son. Then, sometime late Saturday or Sunday, he committed suicide by hanging.

-- There was no suicide note located within the house.

-- To his knowledge, Benoit was never arrested for domestic violence.

-- There were a lot of prescription medications discovered; they were apparently legal prescriptions. Anabolic steroids were among the substances discovered, but Lt. Pope did not reveal specifics.

-- He text messaged a coworker; the coworker received the message several hours after it was sent. It apparently contained something curious.

-- According to preliminary estimates, he killed himself several hours, but no more than a day, after killing his son.

the Scott Ballard:

-- His "bizarre" comment refers to the timing of the various deaths. Based on the investigation, some time elapsed between each death.

-- There was a Bible placed beside the bodies of his victims (Nancy and Daniel).

-- There were no signs of a struggle; the wife was bound on her feet and on her wrists. There was some blood under her head.

-- Authorities have no idea about the motive.

-- There was no 911 call.

-- Benoit hanged himself with the cord from a cable-loaded weight machine.

-- There is no evidence of an intruder.

 

[RoboRocks]

After learning about the details of Benoit's death WWE.com has now removed much of the content on him from their website.They have also decided not to distribute the tribute show to their international affilates for airing

But hasn't the tribute show already happened in America?

Thanks for that info Animator.